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Seriously? and it doesn't come with pedals?? (Read 1016 times)

KMB


    First experience at a bike store last night, shopping for a gift for (and with) my wife.  A road bike so she can do more/better in triathlons.

     

    Prices range from $700 up to $7000.  Shocking on its own; they dont come with pedals.  Isnt that like a car with no gas or brake pedal I ask.  I get the long dissertation about different fits, weights, balancing etc etc etc.  So i keep chatting with the guy and ask him how they pay for all their inventory - thinking they must basically get them on consignment from the manufacturers.  He says no - they buy them outright.  I question margins and he claims the margins in their business are extremely small.

     

    as i look at a last year's model that was $1500 and is now $1000....

     

    Anybody with industry experience have a comment on the claim that the margins are quite small, because I'm not buying it.

      Holy smokes... and my wife thinks running is an expensive sport.


      Btw,did you price out the shoes and the gaudy clothes?  

      xor


        My direct knowledge is ancient, but I know a couple who own a local tri shop.  It seems to me that margins on bike frames are indeed small, and its not like unsold inventory gets sent back to the manufacturer at the end of the season.  This shop does buy frames outright, and if one doesn't sell, well, oops.  They make their money... and it isn't a  lot of money... more off the "stuff" (especially clothes) and the bike service.

         

        But, again, my real knowledge is circa 1990 and the little bit I hear from this couple when I'm at races or meetings with them.

         

          I worked in the retail bike business for 11 years.  The margins totally suck.  I would *never* open a bike shop...
            I think people tend to want to add on specific types of pedals, so stock pedals would be essentially useless.
            Mile Collector


            Abs of Flabs

              Kind of like the movie theater business.  They break even (or even lose money) on the tickets (don't ask me how), but make it up in the concessions.
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              rectumdamnnearkilledem

                First experience at a bike store last night, shopping for a gift for (and with) my wife.  A road bike so she can do more/better in triathlons.

                 

                Prices range from $700 up to $7000.  Shocking on its own; they dont come with pedals.  Isnt that like a car with no gas or brake pedal I ask.  I get the long dissertation about different fits, weights, balancing etc etc etc.  So i keep chatting with the guy and ask him how they pay for all their inventory - thinking they must basically get them on consignment from the manufacturers.  He says no - they buy them outright.  I question margins and he claims the margins in their business are extremely small.

                 

                as i look at a last year's model that was $1500 and is now $1000....

                 

                Anybody with industry experience have a comment on the claim that the margins are quite small, because I'm not buying it.

                 

                Of course it doesn't come with pedals--they can't assume what sort of pedal the customer will want...SPD, Time, Look, Speedplay, etc.  Many customers likely already have a set of pedals, as well.


                That "profit" also will include thorough fitting, assembly, adjustments, and probably at least 6 months of included adjustments and minor repairs.  All things one doesn't get when they purchase a bike at Wal-Mart (aside from basic assembly).


                A friend of ours owns a small shop.  Once he pays for the retail space, utilities, and his employees' wages he barely breaks even.


                You could save money buying a bike off of eBay or Craig's List, but it may be a poor fit and then you're stuck with an ill-fitting bike.  Most reputable bike shops will stand behind their fitting and any issues that crop up in the first few months a customer is in possession of their bike.

                Getting the wind knocked out of you is the only way to

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                     ~ Sarah Kay


                A Saucy Wench

                  Yeah, a friend of mine owns a bike shop here and says if he could get away with it he would just do service and customization.  He makes very little or loses on frames, makes a bit on custom parts, but makes his living on service, clothing, accessories, etc.

                   

                   

                  Having no pedals is a pretty complete bike.  Serious bikers often buy just the frame.  Then EVERYthing else is component. 

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                  "When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasnt tired and kept running anyway" - dd, age 7

                  mikeymike


                    It would be like skis coming with bindings already mounted.

                    Runners run

                      They will put a set of cheap pedals on for free, but they will be crap.

                       

                        It would be like skis coming with bindings already mounted.

                         

                        Or running shoes coming with laces. Oh, wait...never mind.

                          I'd think for the entry level bikes having pedals is probably not a bad idea.  I can't imagine someone begining to bike wanting clipless pedals.


                          Feeling the growl again

                             

                             

                            Or running shoes coming with laces. Oh, wait...never mind.

                             

                            Yeah but my understanding is that shoe stores have better margins.  When I bought several pairs from a big name manufacturer through a special team discount, I got shoes that retail for $90 for $35/pair.

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                            mikeymike


                               

                              Yeah but my understanding is that shoe stores have better margins.  When I bought several pairs from a big name manufacturer through a special team discount, I got shoes that retail for $90 for $35/pair.

                               

                              That must have been subsidized by the manufacturer--retail margins on running shoes are around 50% or less.

                              Runners run

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                              rectumdamnnearkilledem

                                 

                                Yeah but my understanding is that shoe stores have better margins.  When I bought several pairs from a big name manufacturer through a special team discount, I got shoes that retail for $90 for $35/pair.

                                 

                                Yeah, it's kind of funny to gripe about bike costs on frames that are often made in the US (Trek, Cannondale, and many smaller brands), yet pay HUGE mark-ups on running shoes made in China.

                                Getting the wind knocked out of you is the only way to

                                remind your lungs how much they like the taste of air.    

                                     ~ Sarah Kay

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