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Damn and It looked like this was going to flame off into a Friday Meltdown.
fwiw Too many miles too fast. nya nya
as Johnny Storm likes to say, "Flame on!"
I have that exact strap in the picture. Im not sure if it is helping or not. I have been running 10 months also. I have only ran over 20 miles/week once and most of my weekly miles are 12-18miles range, so nothing like you. I never ran 2 days in a row until I had ran almost 6 months. Only ran hills once or twice. This past monday was my first ever speed workout. I have had ITB 3 times now so yeah it can happen even when you are low mileage like me. It's VERY frustrating.
I have been doing MYRTL freakin FOREVER. Ive been to PT 4 times now - Been zapped with little electrode thingys, had ultrasound therapy, it helped but I Cant go anymore, I cant afford it. Ive been fitted for a custom orthotic which made it worse, changed shoes, now wearing superfeet orthotics, listened to a metronome while I run so as not to overstride, run on both sides of the street, run some in grass, changed to a fore/midfoot strike, I still havent figured out what my issue is. Im guessing its just muscle weakness as I have been doing the leg circuit from coach Jay (myrtl guy) and it still makes me sore so I figure Im just really weak in my legs. Probably atrophied from bed rest with my twin pregnancy ( went full term).
I will still wear the strap because I figure it cant hurt. It will make you sweaty under the strap though. I would love to have surgery to remove my IT bands but I guess you need them to run. Not like an appendix or wisdom teeth.
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Traci
Drink up moho's!!
She's getting her strap on eh?
@runjerseygirl
Ha! OMG, I laughed so hard!
Do you even run?
levitation specialist
I get what you're saying, I really do. But I don't think I see anyone kicking her while she is down, just maybe giving (sound) advice that she doesn't want to hear. I think that seasoned runners telling a relative beginner to slow down when ramping up the mileage and to take adequate down time in order to heal an injury is quite different from non-runners saying "See? Running is bad for you! Told you so." There are always exceptions to any rule, and I sincerely hope that Heidi is that exception and that her PT rehabbing works and she is able to get back to her higher-mileage training. But that doesn't mean that the rule is completely invalid, or that reminding people of its existence should be considered a dig at anyone.
I get what you're saying, I really do. But I don't think I see anyone kicking her while she is down, just maybe giving (sound) advice that she doesn't want to hear. I think that seasoned runners telling a relative beginner to slow down when ramping up the mileage and to take adequate down time in order to heal an injury is quite different from non-runners saying "See? Running is bad for you! Told you so."
There are always exceptions to any rule, and I sincerely hope that Heidi is that exception and that her PT rehabbing works and she is able to get back to her higher-mileage training. But that doesn't mean that the rule is completely invalid, or that reminding people of its existence should be considered a dig at anyone.
That's cool, and I get that also. But what I am saying is that it seems like we all forget sometimes we RICE ourselves. Wear compression gear or tape or support sleeves. Being active is all of those things and when you ask a simple question about opinions on a device, people come out with wagging fingers and hip cocking? I thought it was uncalled for, so I said so.
I am sure OP is well aware of the 10% rule. I am sure this is not new news to her. But acting like people KNOW her injury/issue is directly BECAUSE she didn't follow this rule and is the price she pays is amount to "I told you so."
We can guess. We can assume. We can surmise. But we don't know. Period.
Told you so what? So does that make my mom right too that running is bad for my knees?
I twisted my ankle last February on a walnut I didn't see on the running trail. THAT I know caused my injury. And that squirrels suck at leaving walnuts laying around. But that's all it taught me. I still run on that trail. And I hope OP continues to run her little heart out.
And lets say for the sake of argument that this is related to the 10% rule. So what's she gonna do now? She can't go back. She's at 40-50 miles a week now. Which is also what I don't get about this, it's done & in the past. Why give her grief now, other than to just give her grief(as in, kicking her while she is down)? That's what I meant. Why peeps? We love our fellow runners.
So that is what that strap is for! Sometimes you see people out running with the and I wonder why. Got it! Now if OP is back here year after year with the same issue and the cause is super obvious, then fine. But I don't think 1 injury in 10 months is proof that, indeed, we told ya so.
So that is what that strap is for! Sometimes you see people out running with the and I wonder why. Got it!
Now if OP is back here year after year with the same issue and the cause is super obvious, then fine. But I don't think 1 injury in 10 months is proof that, indeed, we told ya so.
First off, there was no "I told you so" intended. It is supremely important for beginners to understand that there are lots of systems that have to get attuned to running distances and there's actual, you know, REASONS why some folks are conservative in their viewpoint regarding spending a long time building up. There was no slap, slam, nor poke intended. It is important to know why and what to do about it.
Edit: for the record, I think the 10% rule is bullshit and I didn't do any finger waving or "hip cocking" because of not following that rule. Period. The end.
But. Come on. Sure, we can give advice on "the strap" but "the strap" itself isn't the issue. And without commenting on the issues, then what's the damn point of having runners-with-knowledge provide advice to beginners? I tried to be friendly. I think I was. That it is being taken as nyah nyah nyah finger wavey stuff, well, sorry. It wasn't intended that way. Have a popsicle.
Second edit: specific to this "Which is also what I don't get about this, it's done & in the past. Why give her grief now,"... I am not trying to give her grief, but I will tell you EXACTLY why this is worth commenting on now. Putting on that strap and going back to higher mileages is Not. The. Answer. That's not "grief", that's "advice". Because... we love our fellow runners and Heidi and we want to hayulp.
As for the strap, it depends. There are two similar looking straps that do different things. If you see someone with a strap above their knee, that's generally someone warding off ITBS. If you see someone with a strap below their knee, that's usually someone warding off one of the various "runner's knee" ailments.
My problem wasn't a weak core, my problem was an imbalance between the muscles on the lateral side and the muscles on the medial side of my legs. Lateral side muscles were much tighter. I have a tendency to stand with my toes pointed ever so slightly outward. Over time, this "shortened" the lateral side muscles, creating the imbalance. Add to this the loathing I had for stretching and voila: ITBS.
Yup, very very common. And this is what makes IT band stuff sneaky hard to fix... there are SEVERAL different kinds of imbalance and weakness that can cause that muscle thing to hurt because it is a very long muscle band of connective tissue that gets all kinds of weird stressors when stuff is a little out of whack.
Good job on figuring it out!
Edit: I was being a dumbass
Yup, very very common. And this is what makes IT band stuff sneaky hard to fix... there are SEVERAL different kinds of imbalance and weakness that can cause that muscle to hurt because it is a very long muscle that gets all kinds of weird stressors when stuff is a little out of whack. Good job on figuring it out!
Yup, very very common. And this is what makes IT band stuff sneaky hard to fix... there are SEVERAL different kinds of imbalance and weakness that can cause that muscle to hurt because it is a very long muscle that gets all kinds of weird stressors when stuff is a little out of whack.
SRL, you've given some fabulous advice in this thread. And you've done it in your non-confrontational manner. So thanks for that.
But, I'm going to disagree with you on one teeny, tiny, little part.
The IT band is not a muscle. It's a band of connective tissue.
OK, that's all. Carry on.
Ha. So it is. I was driving too fast. Carry on.
I had no idea this was the Friday meltdown thread?! Some people seem to like to say "I told ya so!" whether or not it is warranted.
You not from 'round heah r ya?
I haven't logged on to RA in exactly 1.5 days and am very pleased to see that SRL's lecture on how the interwebz works is still in session. I was afraid I had missed part of it. Really....we..er..I get that you've run lots of miles, have posted on the webz since the beginning of time in multiple forums, etc, got it. Now let it rest....
Stick to the topic peeps...the OP asked if anyone had experience using the IT band strap thingy. Nothing more than that. When you get your degree in Physical Therapy and have proved yourself in the field of study, feel free to call the OP and chime in all you want, until then STFU.
You not from 'round heah r ya? I haven't logged on to RA in exactly 1.5 days and am very pleased to see that SRL's lecture on how the interwebz works is still in session. I was afraid I had missed part of it. Really....we..er..I get that you've run lots of miles, have posted on the webz since the beginning of time in multiple forums, etc, got it. Now let it rest.... Stick to the topic peeps...the OP asked if anyone had experience using the IT band strap thingy. Nothing more than that. When you get your degree in Physical Therapy and have proved yourself in the field of study, feel free to call the OP and chime in all you want, until then STFU.
We will take you seriously when you stop talking like a middle schooler.
The advice given by all was not confrontational. It was from people who have been there done that and realize that while a strap may or may not work, the important thing is to rest and heal, then strengthen. Kind of like her physical therapist said to do so. So if anything, people were merely saying "Listen to the expert that told you to rest".
Nice work stirring up a pot that has already settled. Can we move on?
Wickedly Average
Don't worry - the meltdown is already over.
The critical mass has cooled, melted through the floor and is now a blob of metallic "stuff" in the basement, much like that "elephant's foot" they found in Chernobyl after the real meltdown.
Meltdowns in this group don't normally last long. They're just little flare-ups that happen from time to time. Just like in real life.
Tom (formerly known as PhotogTom)
5K - 25:16, 10K - 55:31, 15K - 1:20:55, HM - 1:54:54
Revenge of the Nerd
Listen to the Band
One of these days is none of these days.
~ H.G. Bohn
I clearly am not running enough if I have all this pent up angst.
Oh my dear you are seriously in trouble. Get thee over to runners anonymous asap
Edit: I said this in response to your remark and didn't read the rest of the thread. Well, I didn't mean to be a dick and add any fuel to the fire. I was just trying to be funny and typed it as i thought it (something i do often). In any case, you'll sort everything out over time.