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Marathon Training Tips and Advice (Read 114 times)

happylily


    My advice is to read as many race reports as you can and try to learn something from everyone's experience. There is good and there is bad in those reports and there is always a lesson that can be learned in them. And while you're at it, leave a comment to the person who wrote the report. Something encouraging, or a simple thank you. It promotes some unity and healthy bonding in this community.

    PRs: Boston Marathon, 3:27, April 15th 2013

            Cornwall Half-Marathon, 1:35, April 27th 2013

    18 marathons, 18 BQs since 2010

    B-Plus


      BTW, I agree with Jay.  The marathon is a race no different from any other race.  However, I disagree that more mileage makes it hurt less.  More mileage just means you can run it faster.  It probably hurts more.

       

      When you put it that way, I generally agree. Maybe there is a better chance that it will suck less though.

      FreeSoul87


      Runs4Sanity

        Definitely, a thought came to my mind this morning......... I am probably going to puke the morning before the race lol.

         

        My advice is to read as many race reports as you can and try to learn something from everyone's experience. There is good and there is bad in those reports and there is always a lesson that can be learned in them. And while you're at it, leave a comment to the person who wrote the report. Something encouraging, or a simple thank you. It promotes some unity and healthy bonding in this community.

        *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

        PRs

        5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

        10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

        15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

        13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

         26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)


        #artbydmcbride

           

           

               Any advice would be most appreciated.

           

          Run lots, mostly easy,....sometimes hard

           

          Runners run

          FreeSoul87


          Runs4Sanity

            Lol good advice.

             

             

            Run lots, mostly easy,....sometimes hard

            *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

            PRs

            5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

            10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

            15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

            13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

             26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)

            Slymoon Runs


            race obsessed

              LS,

              Did you have a goal time?

              FreeSoul87


              Runs4Sanity

                Whose LS?

                 

                LS,

                Did you have a goal time?

                *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

                PRs

                5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

                10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

                15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

                13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

                 26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)

                Docket_Rocket


                Former Bad Ass

                   

                  Like masochism a bit there LtH?

                  I have a great damned time training hard.  Yes, it hurts, it is work, but if I didn't enjoy it and "have fun with it" I would go do something else more rewarding.

                   

                  Now, one of the big differences between us is where we started and have been relatively healthy my entire life.

                   

                  Well, some people do marathons for fun.  Ahem....

                  Damaris

                  Slymoon Runs


                  race obsessed

                    Whose LS?

                     

                     

                    Um...

                    yeah that...

                     

                    FS

                     

                     

                    call it mad typing typo. (been writing a ton this morning... gah)

                    FreeSoul87


                    Runs4Sanity

                      Lol, well... I do have a time that I would like to finish under but I haven't really said it out loud as I know many would tell me it isn't possible unless train real seriously and stuff - blah blah. But...... I guess I could mention it....

                      I'd like to finish under 4:30:00, but I would be pleased with finishing under 4:50:00.

                       

                       

                       

                      Um...

                      yeah that...

                       

                      FS

                       

                       

                      call it mad typing typo. (been writing a ton this morning... gah)

                      *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

                      PRs

                      5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

                      10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

                      15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

                      13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

                       26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)

                      Slymoon Runs


                      race obsessed

                        Don't sell yourself short.

                        Provided you are near the shape you were in for your 1:56 HM, you work through your plan and don't have any major setback. (Including race day screw-ups) you should be fairly near 4 hours.

                         

                         

                        For example:

                        My first (and only) marathon so far, I *think* I was in 3:45 shape. But I screwed myself with breakfast (too much) and ended up walking about 10 miles of the last half. And that netted me a 5:0X.

                        onemile


                          Don't sell yourself short.

                          Provided you are near the shape you were in for your 1:56 HM, you work through your plan and don't have any major setback. (Including race day screw-ups) you should be fairly near 4 hours.

                            

                          +1, maybe not 4 hours but < 4:15 seems reasonable. You can reassess after getting through your training plan but you should be much closer to 4 hrs than to 5!

                          LRB


                            Don't sell yourself short.

                            Provided you are near the shape you were in for your 1:56 HM, you work through your plan and don't have any major setback. (Including race day screw-ups) you should be fairly near 4 hours.

                             

                            +2

                             

                            I understand your hesitance to declare a time goal on an open forum but it is important to have one otherwise what exactly are you attempting to do, run until you cannot anymore and hope that 26.2 miles is before then.

                             

                            Your training runs will give you an idea if your goal pace per mile is feasible (10:18 for a 4:30) or not, then as One says you can reassess at that time.  But absolutely train with a time goal so at least you have a clue.

                            FreeSoul87


                            Runs4Sanity

                              Definitely, that's the reason I'm not really picking a goal yet. I figure I will think more seriously about a goal time halfway through my training and then again near the end of my training and closer to the race.

                              I really, really, really, really would love to finish between 4:00:00 and 4:15:00 but I will not make that a goal this early on, especially with this being my first marathon. Smile

                               

                              +1, maybe not 4 hours but < 4:15 seems reasonable. You can reassess after getting through your training plan but you should be much closer to 4 hrs than to 5!

                              *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

                              PRs

                              5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

                              10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

                              15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

                              13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

                               26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)

                                So 10:18 is GMP.  No one is laughing at you, it is entirely possible with a sub-2 HM to your credit.

                                 

                                Maybe try the last 5-6 miles of your LR at that pace roughly halfway through your training.  If 10:18 feels too hard to maintain then, back off.  If it feels easy and you finish the LR in good shape, shoot for a faster goal time.  If it feels a bit strenuous but like you'd be able to do more miles at that effort the next time, that's your pace.  Smile