For those who's dads are living, I hope ya'll called your Dads today. They are special! I called mine...he's looking forward to a night of golf and B-Ball. dg... I LOVE your excitement! This running stuff IS fun! Ran 20.6 miles of hills in 3:25:40 (10:00 pace). It was hard even with the slower pace and lower HR due to the temperatures 70-80F and humid. I felt fine after so it was a good workout. Tory went for the first 2.2 miles Did anyone see Leo Manzano's (Texas) 1500m race at the NCAA meet. Wow, what a runner. He stayed in the lead from the start and as anyone started putting a move on, he sped up and then broke away big time in the final stretch. Really great run. It was his last NCAA race as he graduates.

Perch, Harriet, twocat, Tramps and others who ran long today, my hat's off to all of you. I think today was the first day in TX that I really felt the high heat, despite how early I got started. It was a 6:45 departure for me and I ran slowly but fairly comfortably for my planned 12. It was 96 when I finished. Francois, nice AG win in the 17's! Good for you in that H and H! SteveP, for a guy who thinks he is Batman, you say the sanest things. I really appreciate your outlook. Great post. Good choice today Tim. A bit of recovery is just enough. Many years ago I used to train with a lovely woman whose husband was a Colonel in the Army. When he got the "bird" pinned on when he was promoted to full Colonel and they asked him to make a speech, he said, "I am so happy today. The only regret I have is that my father cannot be here to share this day." She said to me the next day, "His dad died when he was young and he never mentions missing him. I was so surprised to hear him say that." Well, I knew what he meant. My dad was 54 and I was 12 when he died. And from time to time some good thing happens to me in my life and as happy as I am on those occasions, I always say to myself, "If only my dad were here to see this!" And I know that for all of you whose dads have passed on, you secretly say the same thing. Those occasions are my Father's Day. Since I do all the cooking in the family I think they want to spare me today. I am going to watch the U.S. Open final day and follow my idol Tiger, and then we're going out for Indian food. I hope they make enough of that naan bread! Spareribs

Wonderful posts here from so many. Thank you and Happy Father's Day. 17 very sweaty miles for me. Out for the first half in 9:10 pace and back in 8:45ish pace. The temperature was nice at 65F or so, but the dew point about equaled that, so hydration and salt balance was key for me today. Legs felt great and this tells me that I didn't push it hard enough yesterday. Good week of running all in all. Nice racing Tallrunner! Instead of a Father's Day hike that was our plan, the kiddo asked his father if they could go fishing and the mutual gleam in their eyes was tough to ignore. A lovely journey for father and son and I am happy to stay home and clean up. Ribs, my husband does all the cooking here. His plan is to make burgers out of sirloin tips with blue cheese and red onions since I'll be on my way to the airport and can't complain. He'll get to use his new fancy wireless bbq thermometer. Go Tiger! Super Granny is back home and she already called her sons to say Happy Father's Day so she can watch Tiger play in peace. Go Celtics! Perch, I watched the NCAA track meet yesterday as well. Fabulous! On to Dayton, Ohio soon.... Karin/CNYrunner

I was seriously thinking of doing a half marathon today... but I'd have to get up at 4 a.m. to make it over to Waikiki in time to register at 5, race start at 6. I set the alarm (2 of them!) for 4 a.m. and tried my best... but I just couldn't get up. I was sooo tired! I'd spent the last couple of nights staying up way too late trying to get so much done before leaving, and then travel all day yesterday. I was just too tired. So, I got out at 7:15 and ran 9.25 miles on the roads around here. Temp was 80 to 82, humidity almost 60%... that's high for me. I had a bottle of water with me and DH met me at mile 8 to see if I wanted a ride... gave me more water and I was good for running back to the house. Now the boys are making breakfast for the dads (we've got three families staying here in this house/guest cottage place). It's pretty nice here... amazing how they pack all these houses in here though. We're right on the beach... I'll post pics later. One of our boys was featured in a picture from the soccer scrimmage they did on Friday. The Honolulu Advertiser is the paper, and Luke is right on the front page. Pretty cool. Happy Fathers Day to all the dads... I'll call my dad after breakfast and send him hugs over the phone...

It is interesting to see the various situations being posted about Fathers. I wonder what our kids will one day say about us? I ran 5.18 miles and must have had the same heat as Spareribs. While the thermometer didn't indicate an exceptionally high number (89 degrees), the sun must be very direct as I felt like I was baking. Anyway, I got the miles in and was pleased with the workout. Tiger's chase today is going to be interesting with his competitive nature, coming off the emotional high and momentum of yesterday, and still having to deal with a weakening injured knee. This should be entertaining, no matter what the outcome is.

Yeah Ribs, I did get it with Karin's RR. But even with a Garmin watch, how does one know how fast they are running if only by feel...which I do by HR basically. Glad to know that you will be all over me...I look forwrd to the challange...really. Tim

I have given this a lot of thought, and would like to make two points. The first is that nearly everyone messes up the first mile. And the second is that the reason they mess it up is because they judge it be "feel" as Tim points out above. RR's often say, "In the first mile I was feeling great, so I was surprised to see that I ran it in 6:24. Oops! Too fast, but I continued on, trying to slow down....at about two and a half miles there was a short uphill and I just couldn't seem to make my legs go....I was able to sprint the last tenth or so in :41 though...." Two methods of overcoming this tendency: one I mentioned the other day here. Get on the track and run at the pace you expect to run your first mile in. Then do it again. Then do it again. Bring that pace to the race, tuning out all other stimuli, such as the pace of the runners around you, and most importantly, how you "feel." The second is to race more often. The difference between a Karin first mile and the first mile of everyone else is exactly within those two approaches. She works hard on pace so she "knows" the pace from memory, rather than from feel, and she races enough so that she is confident about knowing how fast she is going. This is an important takeaway from track work, and is one more good reason to reinforce that track work at VO2 max, or faster than fiveK pace has very limited practical training benefit. Use your track workouts to practice the learning of various paces. Spareribs

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Ok, that's worse than getting Rick Rolled