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Sore knees (Read 285 times)

    I have been increasing my mileage as of late....but since a 3 mile beach run in soft sand over April vacation... I have had some nagging knee pain, mainly just at the base of my left patella (patellar tendon?) and general aches in my right knee (which I had ACL replacement surgery 6 years ago.). My question is.....it doesn't bother me at all when I run, but I have mild pain after running...mainly to the touch. When I ice it....the pain in the left knee subsides for the most part and the right knee doesn't seem to bother me too much. I'm wondering if I'm just adjusting to the increased mileage, or whether I really tweaked my stabilizer muscles and tendons on the beach run and I haven't taken enough rest in order to fully heal it. I did about a week of cross training and rest after first realizing that I had knee pain after the beach run. I don't want to cut back too much because I can work through it and I have a 5 K at the end of the month and a 10K in June. Any advice? I'm usually a grin and bear it kind of guy and I'm pretty stubborn. I usually won't stop unless I absolutely can't go....but I do want to err on the side of caution since I would love to do a 1/2 marathon in the fall.
    Personal Records 5K - 21:35
      From what I can tell what you might wish to do may depend on which race is the most important to you. Clearly, running as you are is not letting the knee heal. On the other hand you do seem to be able to run on it. If you really, really want to do the 5K then I would say you are doing what you can to line up and run in the best condition you can given your injury. On the other hand I would not then expect to put in a particularly super performance. If the 10K is more important then the first thing I would do is skip the 5K. A race will put a lot of stress on the knee and could put you over the edge. Assuming the 10K in in late June I would then take off at least a week starting today to see if that fixes things. If it does you are good to go. If not, then you should get to an MD forthwith. From there you can see what he says about training for and then running the 10K. One other thing you should consider, I am on the more aggressive side on this board regarding training with an injury. My view is to first do what you are doing and if that fails, as it seems to be in your case, try rest if that fails head to a doctor. My sequence has let me run races (the NJ Marathon in 2006) and kept me out of them as well (the Boston Marathon this year). So it is not without risk or some degree of reward. Most people around here would, I think suggest you stop running now and stay off the knee until it heals. It is certainly the safer course of action and minimizes the risk of long term injury.

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        I ran a 5K last Saturday and was 28 seconds off of my PR. I had no real issues with the knee other than what I am already feeling...only the quads were a little tight the next day. My next 5K isn't until the end of the month...May 31st. The 10k isn't until June 22nd. I think I located the cause of my problem anyways. When I did my beach run, I was on about a 25 degree side incline, with my left leg lower than the right on the way out, and it felt uncomfortable so a ran the second half of my run on the flat, but extremely soft sand. That combined with my flat feet and increased mileage, I think I have "runners knee." I found the article listed below and it seems to hit the nail on the head. A little rest, a little arch support, some ice and I should be back in action. Smile Runner's Knee (Chondromalacia of the patella) Description: Pain around and sometimes behind the kneecap. One of the most common injuries among runners, runner's knee most often strikes as runners approach forty miles per week for the first time. Even after taking a few days off, the pain seems to come right back, sometimes even intensifying, after the first few miles of the next run. The pain often feels worst when running downhill or walking down stairs, and the knee is often stiff and sore after sitting down for long periods. You might hear a crunching or clicking sound when you bend or extend your knee. The sure-fire test for runner's knee: sit down and put your leg out on a chair so that it's stretched out straight. Have a friend squeeze your leg just above the knee while pushing on the kneecap. She should push from the outside of the leg toward the center. At the same time, tighten your thigh muscle. If this is painful, you're looking at runner's knee. Likely causes: It's actually not your knee's fault at all. Blame your feet and thighs; for one reason or another they aren't doing their jobs properly. Your knee moves up and down in a narrow little groove in your thigh bone. It's a nifty design: when your legs and feet are working efficiently, your knee moves smoothly and comfortably with every step. But trouble appears when your kneecap moves out of its track, or rubs up against its sides. That trouble becomes pain when you factor in nearly 1000 steps per cartilage-grinding mile. Over time the cushioning cartilage around the knee becomes worn. That smarts. And that's runner's knee. How did your knee get off track? Probably because of relatively weak thigh muscles and a lack of foot support. It's your thigh muscles that hold your kneecap in place, preventing it from trying to jump its track. Running tends to develop the back thigh muscles (hamstrings) more than those in the front (the quadriceps), and the imbalance is sometimes enough to allow the kneecap to pull and twist to the side. Your foot, meanwhile, may not be giving you the stability you need. It's likely that your feet are making a wrong movement every time they hit the ground, and you're feeling the constant pounding and repetition of this mistake in your knee. Maybe you're overpronating (rolling your foot in) or supinating (turning it out too much) when you run. Runner's knee is further aggravated by simple overuse. If you have steeply increased your mileage recently, you might consider holding back a bit. Likewise, back off on new hill work or speed work. Runner's knee can also be brought on by running on banked surfaces or a curved track. Running on a road that is banked at the sides, for example, effectively gives you one short leg, causing it to pronate and put pressure on the knee. Try as much as possible to run on a level surface, or at the very least give each leg equal time as "the short leg." Remedy: This is an easily treatable injury with a little patience. First, relieve the pain by icing your knees immediately after running. You can use commercially available cold packs or simply put a wet towel in the freezer before you run. Wrap the cold packs around each knee for about fifteen minutes to bring down the swelling. Take an anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen or aspirin after running, too, but only with food and never before running. Before bed, put heating pads or warm wet towels on your knees for half an hour. Stabilize your feet. Make sure you have the right kind of shoes for your foot type (review our tips on shoe shopping). Consider buying a commercially made foot support in the footcare section of your drug store. If, in combination with thigh-strengthening exercises, the foot supports are not enough to get rid of the injury, see a podiatrist about whether you might need orthotics.
        Personal Records 5K - 21:35
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