I have a vague recollection that this was discussed in the past, but don't remember what the consensus was.

Unlocked, open gate... after the no trespassing sign My neighbors have been running there for years and invited me often but the time slot never worked out. They just re-did the track last summer.. sweet!

Maine, I'll be thinking about your son and your family. That's scary. 6.2 miles for me just now in perfect conditions. 26 degrees, calm, and light snow. Such a wonderful run! Slow as Christmas, ha ha, but that's good! I hope you all have a WONDERFUL Christmas. I'll be offline for a couple of days. We're locking the door to our home office so we're not tempted to work or play on the computer! We couldn't buy a bunch of junk for the kids this year, so we're going to give them the gift of our time instead.

Teresa – I made coupon booklets to give to both kids for Christmas out of colorful card stock and brass fasteners, with coupons for things like “one hour of Mom’s undivided time and attention” and “one backrub” and “favorite meal request” and “no chores all day,” and many other things. Just for DD there was “one manicure” and “one pedicure” and “one full treatment – manicure and pedicure" (DD LOVES to be pampered). To make up for these, DS got extra “backrubs” and “no chores” coupons. Very fun, and most of them were all about me giving them time and attention – something that, even though we’re in the house together a lot, they don’t always get from their busy mom. Srlopez - bummer! Any relief in the forecast?

Yes and no. It will change to rain later today. But it won't get above 35, then it will get 25 at night. We will cycle through this pattern for a few days. This means that stuff will get icier and icier at night. And perhaps heavier and heavier on rooftops (although. Just because water freezes doesn't mean it gets heavier. But it does mean that it'll collect MORE freezing rain and drizzle. And an inch of rain weighs a whole lot more than an inch of snow). It'll be the first white Christmas I've experienced in 42 years.

Bob, I sure hope and pray your son will recover uneventfully and be discharged in time for Christmas at home. How scary... {{{Mainerunnah family}}} srlopez, first thing I thought about was all those big beautiful trees in your area dropping branches or splitting and falling on cars and houses. Hope that doesn't come to pass! A white Christmas is very nice if you don't see one regularly, but take it from me... it gets old pretty quick. Lou, our tracks aren't locked in the summer, but in the winter they're barricaded because idiots would get in there with snowmachines and four-wheelers and tear them up. Our tracks have the football fields inside and they want to keep winter traffic off the fields as well as the tracks. Steve, nice job! The first time I ran on a track I was surprised at how "bouncy" it felt. At work till about noon today, last minute shopping (yes Byll, I was waiting for Christmas! ) and then home to lube up my treadmill and knock out a few miles.

Good morning - err afternoon! Out for 5 awful heavy slushy miles this morning. It was still predawn when I left, but I didn't wear my headlamp. Big mistake - it was all I could do to find some tire tracks to run in. Man - it was awful and my legs were dead after the first mile. You can see how slow it was - but my HR was a little more steady so that's good! To entertain myself, I counted mailbox fatalities. They had to be all the way off the post to count - I found 8 of them along with many that didn't have long to live. I also tried to help one guy get unstuck, but I wasn't much help. 11:54 / 160 11:09 / 160 11:43 / 163 12:52 / 152 (talking to my daugter on the phone) 11:49 / 162 Merry Christmas Everyone!!! I hope you all have a safe, happy and blessed Christmas.

Maine, I hope your son is OK! My daughter brought home a note from the school nurse that someone in her school had viral meningitis. He's doing fine. Some good runs today (Bill, Peter, Perch, Gordon, Mari, Ribs, Holly, and Teresa) and not-so-good runs {{{Mary}}}! It's 12 degrees and windy here (taking the day off from work, so "here" means home in the mountains). The rec center closes at noon today and I'm not feeling motivated to go over there now, so it'll either be a day off or a cold windy run... We always cut down our Christmas tree on Christmas Eve, so whether or not I run, we'll bundle up and hike out in our woods to pick out a tree this afternoon. Always fun!

The first one was way fast Splits (6)/ dist/ time/ pace / AHR/MaxHR Split 1 800 Meters 3:20.45 6:43.21 159/173 Split 2 800 Meters 3:31.37 7:05.18 160/166 Split 3 800 Meters 3:26.57 6:55.52 164/169 Split 4 800 Meters 3:26.38 6:55.14 163/169 Split 5 800 Meters 3:26.81 6:56.01 164/169 Split 6 800 Meters 3:25.52 6:53.41 165/170

Hey Ribs, does this remind you of anyone Great workout Steve, as usual for you.....I absolutely love fast track workouts Ribs, while we're speaking of speed work, I want to make a comment. I realize I did most all my speed work - especially track work - waaaay to fast, based on the calculations you used to give me my times to follow. In reality, what did that really hurt. I know you say don't run faster, but just run more repeats. But to be honest on a lot of my track work, I could have ran many more repeats and still would have told you it was too easy. But, are you saying I could have been faster following your plan to a tee? Case in point in my defence....I had big PR's in the 5K - 10K - 10 miles - 1/2 M just on a training run. Could it have been you maybe used the wrong 5K time for calculating my speed work, or am I just approaching training the wrong way...prolly the latter I am sure. Not being argumentative at all, but just curious Well, still at work being bored, and thinking about running. Ooops, not thinking about really running, but just thinking about running....that's all I need is an angry mob hunting me down because they thought I was going to try and run. (corrected this after reading it again) Hope everyone is having a wonderful day TimBo - tapering master - hey, where is my taper buddie tet?