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Best tips and some advice for night running on trails (Read 59 times)


Will run for scenery.

    I ran on an in-town trail after dark on a night with no moon, just sky glow.  I was wearing black.  Someone else was out, doing the same.  We came fairly close to a head-on collision, certainly scared the crap outta me.

     

    Other times I've seen people who didn't see/hear me coming - scared the crap outta them.

     

    So,  maybe wear some light colors or even an LED.

    Stupid feet!

    Stupid elbow!

    FTYC


    Faster Than Your Couch!

      I did not wear any kind of hat at all in the summer for many years, until I discovered that the little gnats seem to stay away from the visor/bill, so that they stay out of my face. Ever since then, I've been wearing a cap. My head is really small, so I also have trouble with the one-size-fits-all hats, but the Headsweats brand fit really nice.

       

      For me, wearing the headlamp with a cap works better on trails - there, I prefer it when my eyes are not blinded, and I don't mind not seeing exactly where my feet strike (I know where they'll strike anyway, and if I look directly at my feet when I run trails, I tend to trip on the next step). On the roads, however, I like it better when the full cone of light strikes the ground ahead of me, so that I can see the curbs and potholes better. I usually also adjust the spot further out on roads than on trails, so that probably makes some difference in the lighting/blinding pattern.

       

      I also wear a brightly colored or reflective shirt when I run in the dark, even on trails. I figure that if I get hurt and/or break my light, and someone needs to find me, they can see me better then.

       

      Another tip for night running:

       

      - carry a small whistle with you, in case you break your lights and want people to find you out there.

       

      BTW, it's not as difficult as it sounds to break both of your lights in a fall (or lose one or both), so John's tip for carrying a third light is definitely useful!

      Run for fun.


      Will run for scenery.

        I've never run at night out in the wilderness, but this thread has me thinking about the bear/mountain lion issue.  Both animals are common where I live and run and I know they use human trails at night to come into town (fairly regular sightings).  I don't worry much while running during the day, but at night it seems like the chance of a close encounter go way up.  I think I'd be pretty creeped out running alone around here at night.

         

        You folks that live in bear country - do you run alone at night ?  Any other tips besides bear bells (a joke, IMO) and spray ?  Apart from races, do any of you do group night runs ?  That sounds much safer, but I don't know of any.

        Stupid feet!

        Stupid elbow!


        Uh oh... now what?

          jjs22, I apologize--I do not live in bear country.  We did live where there are cougars when I wrote this and it is a favorite of mine.

           

          Night run, winter solstice, a while back:

           

          Winter solstice passed a few days before Christmas, almost at the same time that the moon was in perigee—the closest it gets to earth during each orbit.  At perigee the moon appears to be some 12 to 14 percent larger than usual. Winter solstice is the unofficial start of our regular night runs on Wednesdays.  As others are sitting down to dinner, we are looking for lights, gloves, and fanny packs.

           

          This particular evening, we had left the house about thirty minutes before dark to get into the woods to a trail on the easterly side of the mountain. Frost from two mornings ago still sparkled in shady areas.  We crunched along the trail, running upward toward a meadow crossing, checking watches frequently.  Stop, I whispered, we’ll wait here.  How soon? Soon.

           

          We had barely got still when the show started.  The top of the rising moon was almost red as it caught the setting sun’s last rays.  The shadows that had run from the sun not an hour ago were now being reborn by the moon.  The moon’s shadows—always magical, even more so in the woods—would let us run without flashlights for a while.

           

          We started up the trail and turned onto the first forestry road, striding our way through pools of moonlight.  The thickly wooded forest would hide the moon on the trails, keeping it dark away from the road.  So we ran on the open road for a few miles, before finally deciding to turn off down one of the trails.  We stopped then.  It was time to go to work.  We had to decide what to start using.

           

          We each had on a headlight; each had a flashlight in a sheath on the fanny pack belt.  I had two more headlights and several more flashlights in my backpack.  The early sunsets give us time to do night runs without staying up all night.  The night runs give us time to test all the new things we might need for later in the year night races.  Kathy had a green 3-LED to try; I was trying a hand-held with green LEDs too (but with the choice of 4 or 10 LEDs lighted) and a new headlight.

           

          We had finally become comfortable running with our headlights after those first runs when we took turns blinding each other before we got used to the idea that you don’t turn to look at the person you are talking to—unless you turn your light off first.  Headlights are also great for seeing things that are not on the trails.  You hear a noise, you turn to look directly at---wow, look at all the eyes starring back at you.  The record (held by Kathy) is finding five pairs of eyes belonging to a family of raccoons crossing the road.

           

          We turned on the hand-helds and started down the trail.  I was switching back and forth from 4 to 10 lights, headlight on, headlight off, just doing some serious evaluation when I ran into Kathy.  Why are you stopped?  I hear something.  Is it big?  I don’t know.  I turn off my lights.  What are you doing?  I hear better in the dark.  Turn the light back on.  Look, over there (as if I can see which way she is pointing).  No, over there (see, I told you).

           

          Bobcat?  Bobcat!  Wow. A glimpse of something spotted and short-tailed is all we get. Gone, I say calmly.  All gone.  We listen and hear nothing but our wildly erratic breathing.  We adjust things; I change to a single bulb blue-white hand-held, turn the headlight from bright to medium, and we head on down to a well-used creek crossing.

           

          At the creek crossing, we can see several sets of footprints: deer, elk, raccoon, and a largish one we pause over.  In our woods there are two things you should recognize:  poisonoak and …

           

          Cougar?  I think so.  You want me to pretend I can tell how long ago it passed through here?  Maybe feel the print for warmth or something?  It is about the same size as my hand.  It is on top of one of the deer hoof prints.

           

          We start up the trail away from the creek, reciting all the things we know about cougars, mountain lions, panthers, catamounts, pumas, and woolly mammoths (just in case).  We can hear our heartbeats above our footsteps as we move.  You always remember the wrong thing.  I point out that they are predators, that predators are stealthy; therefore, we won’t hear one if it is stalking us.  Oops, that didn’t help.

           

          We run up the other hillside, undoubtedly the fastest we have ever run getting up that stretch, back onto the road, and pause to catch our breath.  We assume we have left the cougar, or whatever, far below.  We decide which way to go and start on around the mountain to the next cross-trail back to the other side.  I change to my dual-bulb headlight because it has a light-up-the-sky switch and get the new flashlight back out.  Of course, the green LEDs lead to the question of which lights would a cougar see better:  the white, blue-white, or green?

           

          About two-hundred yards later, we both hear something moving through the brush just uphill from the road—recalling the won’t-hear-the-predator theory—a remarkable calm is exhibited as we shine the lights on the hillside.  Another first for us, a small porcupine comes meandering through the brush.  We laugh, watch it for a minute or two, and then, just as we are about to start running again, we hear something big just down from the edge of the road.  Big?  Sounded big.  Yes.  How many lights are in the backpack?  Two more headlights and three hand-helds.  Get ‘em out.  All of them?  Yes.

           

          Imaginations are strange things to have with you in the woods.  We have often wondered what the animals in that part of the forest thought about us as we passed through the night.  Two strange creatures with eyes that light up the road both frontward and rearward, and in their paws, eyes on both sides too.  One green one, one white one.  It was just after solstice on the night of the full moon …

           

          Run gently out there.

          moonlightrunner


            Thankfully, I do not live in bear country. There are rumors of cougers...but I think they are urban legends.

             

            Group runs at night? Yes! They are great fun. Just seems to be an extra feeling of excitement. I would think a chattering group would keep any predator away. Don't get me wrong...a solitary night run is great fun...by in places with large predators...I'm pretty sure I would chicken out.

            Blush've never run at night out in the wilderness, but this thread has me thinking about the bear/mountain lion issue.  Both animals are common where I live and run and I know they use human trails at night to come into town (fairly regular sightings).  I don't worry much while running during the day, but at night it seems like the chance of a close encounter go way up.  I think I'd be pretty creeped out running alone around here at night.

             

            You folks that live in bear country - do you run alone at night ?  Any other tips besides bear bells (a joke, IMO) and spray ?  Apart from races, do any of you do group night runs ?  That sounds much safer, but I don't know of any.

            January , 2022 Yankee Springs Winter Challenge 25k

            mtwarden


            running under the BigSky

              I'm in bear country and lion country and don't hesitate to run at night (no spray); I do however carry bear spray religiously when in grizzly country- running or hiking

               

              can't say that I've run at night in grizzly country, but have hiked out late several times and also ridden out in the dark on horseback- headlamp when I was hiking, no need for light when horseback Big grin

               

               

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              Faster Than Your Couch!

                We have black bears in the area, and I've come across some during the day. They are not used to human interaction (thankfully!), so they run away if they see you. That does not mean that there's absolutely no danger from them, but it's fairly unlikely.

                Probably the bear would hear me before I could possibly know he was near me in the night, and run away, or I might hear him trotting along somewhere (it's a big animal, so you'd hear twigs break, and leaves rustle quite a bit).

                 

                I have never thought of carrying bear spray at night (or at day, for that matter) in my area, just because I've come across way more rattlesnakes than bears over the years, and there's more to fear from the snakes (they are also nocturnal, and very hard to see even in daylight Shocked  ).

                Run for fun.

                Daydreamer1


                   

                  Probably the bear would hear me before I could possibly know he was near me in the night, and run away, or I might hear him trotting along somewhere (it's a big animal, so you'd hear twigs break, and leaves rustle quite a bit).

                   

                  Your right that they would most likely hear you first and leave or watch you run by. As far as them making a lot of noise though, I have found it amazing how the bigger animals make the least noise.  The last bear I saw drew my attention only because he was digging for something, possibly grubs. When he ran away he made very little noise considering his size and speed. Many times while hunting I was sure there was a mega sized herd of deer coming up behind me only to find that it was just a single lone chipmunk.

                  TrailProf


                  Le professeur de trail

                     

                    Your right that they would most likely hear you first and leave or watch you run by. As far as them making a lot of noise though, I have found it amazing how the bigger animals make the least noise.  The last bear I saw drew my attention only because he was digging for something, possibly grubs. When he ran away he made very little noise considering his size and speed. Many times while hunting I was sure there was a mega sized herd of deer coming up behind me only to find that it was just a single lone chipmunk.

                     

                    You spend enough time in the woods and you begin to know the sounds of various animals.  Deers are prancing and jumping over things - very distinct sound.  Bear are usually low to the ground and barrel through the brush - fairly different sound from deer.  And then there are the blasted squirrels - they will sometimes sound so much bigger than they are.  They have startled me more than any deer or bear I have seen.

                     

                    Now back to night running....

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                    mtwarden


                    running under the BigSky

                      just a quick verification on two lamps, my waist lamp died on me half way into my run, I turned my headlamp to the highest setting, but it still was no where near as effective as the two lamp setup

                       

                       

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