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Using a race as training for another race of same distance... What pace? (Read 304 times)


Muddling through

    You could always run it as 2 x 12 miles with a 2.2 mile recovery walk. Wink

    2014 Goals: Run first trail ultra, first 100K, and see what I can do in a 24-Hour race

    happylily


      You could always run it as 2 x 12 miles with a 2.2 mile recovery walk. Wink

       

      That sounds just too easy. Big grin

      PRs: Boston Marathon, 3:27, April 15th 2013

              Cornwall Half-Marathon, 1:35, April 27th 2013

      4 years racing, 16 marathons, 16 BQs     

      MJ5


      Chief Unicorn Officer

        I also think it's a totally fine idea--it's not your first rodeo, so you know what pace you should go and all that.  I have no doubt you'll be fine! Smile

        Mile 5:49 - 5K 19:58 - 10K 43:06 - HM 1:36:54

        redrum


        Caretaker/Overlook Hotel

          So, any idea what you'll plan to run it at?

           

          If your PR pace is 8:06/mi, I'm thinkin maybe 8:06.5 or maybe back it way down to like an 8:07 or something?

           

           Randy

            I love this thread! First of all you accidentally signed up for a marathon and then you ask a bunch of mental marathoners for advice Big grin

             

            I'd do it for sure ... telling myself to run the January race easy but then get caught up racing it anyway ... Like you said 12 weeks is an eternity!

            Train smart ... race smarter.

            CrisRuns


              I predict you will do it and race it.


              Bad Ass

                I love this thread! First of all you accidentally signed up for a marathon and then you ask a bunch of mental marathoners for advice Big grin

                 

                I'd do it for sure ... telling myself to run the January race easy but then get caught up racing it anyway ... Like you said 12 weeks is an eternity!

                 

                She got that from me.

                Damaris, Marathon Maniac, Ultra Runner

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                Coastal


                  Ok, you're going to wind up racing it but not trying to PR, right?  Big grin

                   

                  Just monitor yourself.  if all systems are go, then do it.  If not, then scale back accordingly.  As MJ said, this ain't your first rodeo.  You certainly know what you're doing. 

                  happylily


                    I see some people have no faith in me... Big grin I'm going to run this thing EXACTLY twenty-four seconds... ok, no... I meant TWENTY seconds slower than April goal pace. I S-W-E-A-R. Watch me. Cool

                     

                    But going back to the original intend of the thread, my question was more about when is a pace a training pace and when is it close enough to race pace to not be training pace anymore...

                     

                    Thanks, guys. :-)

                    PRs: Boston Marathon, 3:27, April 15th 2013

                            Cornwall Half-Marathon, 1:35, April 27th 2013

                    4 years racing, 16 marathons, 16 BQs     


                    Bad Ass

                      I see some people have no faith in me... Big grin I'm going to run this thing EXACTLY twenty-four seconds... ok, no... I meant TWENTY seconds slower than April goal pace. I S-W-E-A-R. Watch me. Cool

                       

                      But going back to the original intend of the thread, my question was more about when is a pace a training pace and when is it close enough to race pace to not be training pace anymore...

                       

                      Thanks, guys. :-)

                       

                      Maybe we know you more than you think we do.

                      Damaris, Marathon Maniac, Ultra Runner

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                      "The most powerful weapon on earth is the human soul on fire."

                      CrisRuns


                        I see some people have no faith in me... Big grin I'm going to run this thing EXACTLY twenty-four seconds... ok, no... I meant TWENTY seconds slower than April goal pace. I S-W-E-A-R. Watch me. Cool

                         

                        But going back to the original intend of the thread, my question was more about when is a pace a training pace and when is it close enough to race pace to not be training pace anymore...

                         

                        Thanks, guys. :-)

                         

                         

                        I will watch you. :-) What is the date, again?

                        Adam_McAllen


                        Beer-and-waffle Powered

                          Thanks ila, D. and Adam! I knew someone here would understand me. :-) It will be a good way to test my will-power. Can I run at a set pace without going crazy and then end up like the walking dead? We'll see in January. Stay tuned. :-)

                           

                          Adam, no, not Paris. I wish... :-) BTW, I found a French running forum which seems very active (people from France, Belgium, Morroco, etc...). I signed up, but then I realized they use all these weird running terms I've never heard of, such as "fractionné court", which is like 800m, I guess? Not sure... I'm too embarrassed to ask someone there...LOL

                           

                          That's too badJoking. Which site was it? I've got a good excuse for not knowing the wordsBig grin. I noticed as well when talking to people they all talked about VMA (vitesse maximale aérobique)... and they go by speeds not paces (if you think the mins/mile to mins/km is tough, try the mins/mile to km/h calculation on the fly!). 

                          In the words of my late-coach : Just hang in there, relax... and at the end of a race anyone you see.....just pass them

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