I'm with you. I enjoy beer, wine, and cigars. "Expert" reviews for all of these pleasures in life seem to include the language you described. I'm not sure I'd want to have that much detail available to me, as it seems it would prevent me from sitting down and enjoying what I'm here to enjoy.

I'm a cigar guy, too. I agree, same deal goes - good is good. I just wonder (for all of these reviews), where do they they think this crap up?

LOL - that's why I bring a newspaper with me. Keeps me from thinking too much!

Anybody else a fan of strong beers? I figured I'd start a thread about them so we can share our favorites and hopefully get the 411 on some we might not have tried. What constitutes a strong beer? Generally, anything 6.5% ABV and up! Bock: >=6.5 % ABV; Strong/old ales: 6.5 - 8.5% ABV; Imperial stouts: >= 7.5%; Barleywine: >= 8.5 % Me? I regularly rotate the following into my cellar, listed in no particular order, except that Brooklyn is my current favorite: Black Chocolate Stout, Brooklyn Brewery (Imperial Stout) 10.60% ABV Skullsplitter, Orkney Brewery (Wee Heavy) 8.50% ABV Bigfoot Ale, Sierra Nevada (Barleywine) 9.6% ABV Grande Reserve Blue, Chimay (Strong Ale) 9.00% Piraat, Van Steenberge Brouwerij (Strong Ale/IPA?) 10.50% I'd like to hear recommendations about other strong beers!

If you can find Wasatch Devastater doublebok it is awsome. Wasatch is a local Utah brewery having won many awards so you may be able to find it. Good luck. As for the Bigfoot Ale, I thought it was down right nasty! I needed to chew and use a spoon to get it down. The Devistater is only 8.4 but it taste pretty good. BTW Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is one of my favorite beers, and quite a value. (better than some costing twice as much) Kenny

Here are a few of my "BIG BEER" favorites. Since moving from Colorado to Arizona it almost moves me to tears that I cannot get great beers in this place. Not only is this a desert I live in now, it is a proverbial beer desert, devoid of good beers.........WHAAAAAAAA!!!! I hope these links work.......not used to the form of the HTML tags used here. Quite possibly my favorite big beer of all times...... Left Hand Imperial Stout http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/left-hand-imperial-stout/429/ This one I can actually get in my grocery store despite the piss-poor general selection...... Stone's Arrogant Bastard http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/arrogant-bastard-ale/1315/ ANY.....and I mean ANY beer from Dogfish Head http://www.dogfish.com. Their 120 Minute IPA is THE shit!!! Sierra Nevada.....Bigfoot Barley Wine http://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer/Beer-Ratings.asp?BeerID=371 Anchor......... Old Foghorn http://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer/Beer-Ratings.asp?BeerID=4728 I know a few of these are from larger breweries.......but I have a hard time finding a decent selection of beers to try around here.