2023 The Waltons: Racing & Training Thread (Read 301 times)

Fredford66


Waltons ThreadLord

    I enjoyed the Berlin Marathon a lot, so my new goal is to run a great memorable Marathon per year but more as a tourist than for competitive reasons. We shall see.

     

     

    Mick - Sounds like a great idea, though maybe the competitive urge will surface once you cross the start line.

     

    With three days to go, and given it's been consistent, I think I can start to trust Sunday's forecast.  Looking at 56º to start, going up to 61º (13C - 16C) with moderate humidity and low winds of about 5 mph (8kph).  The one thing that's been variable is the cloud cover, but - oh well.  The temperature is a bit warm for me, but it could be so much worse that I'll gladly run in that weather.

    5k 23:48.45 (3/22); 4M 31:26 (2/22); 5M 38:55 (11/23); 10k 49:24 (10/22); 
    10M 1:29:33 (2/24); Half 1:48:32 (10/22); Marathon 4:29:58 (11/23)

    Upcoming races: Scotch Plains 5k, 6/12; Firecracker 4-miler, 7/4

     

       

      Mick - Sounds like a great idea, though maybe the competitive urge will surface once you cross the start line.

       

      With three days to go, and given it's been consistent, I think I can start to trust Sunday's forecast.  Looking at 56º to start, going up to 61º (13C - 16C) with moderate humidity and low winds of about 5 mph (8kph).  The one thing that's been variable is the cloud cover, but - oh well.  The temperature is a bit warm for me, but it could be so much worse that I'll gladly run in that weather.

       

      It will draw the crowds to the streets and seems like perfect PR weather (no pressure)!!! You will have a great time I am sure.

       

      And yes absolutely correct - once I cross the startline I am in beast mode haha. But....if I don't plan on taking it too serious, I won't obsess over missing some workouts during the training block. I believe that's already a big win.

      HM: 1:47 (9/20) I FM: 3:53:11 (9/23)

       

      2024 Goals: run a FM & HM + stay healthy!

      watsonc123


        Fred - those conditions sound pretty good.  Good luck.  I also hope the pre-race waiting, logistics etc. aren't tiring too.

        PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

         

        40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

         

        2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

         

        2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

        Fredford66


        Waltons ThreadLord

          Fred - those conditions sound pretty good.  Good luck.  I also hope the pre-race waiting, logistics etc. aren't tiring too.

           

          Thanks.

           

          It's a hurry-up-and-wait kind of thing.  5:15 am drive to the bus (will feel like 6:15 due to the time change), then an hour ride to the start area.  Then 2+ hours of waiting, which I've now learned to use for relaxation (I'll take a plastic garbage bag to put on the ground so I can lie down without getting damp).  The main thing will be to stay hydrated and fueled in the 5 hours between when I get up and when I cross the start line.

          5k 23:48.45 (3/22); 4M 31:26 (2/22); 5M 38:55 (11/23); 10k 49:24 (10/22); 
          10M 1:29:33 (2/24); Half 1:48:32 (10/22); Marathon 4:29:58 (11/23)

          Upcoming races: Scotch Plains 5k, 6/12; Firecracker 4-miler, 7/4

           

          SteveChCh


          Hot Weather Complainer

            Good luck Fred!  Definitely sounds like good conditions, especially after what was served up last year.

             

            Mick - Yep, she's much better with every day.  It's 4 weeks now - the first 2 were pretty rough and also had work + study.  Ended up taking some time off work when it got a bit much.  Light is at the end of the tunnel now though, she doesn't need me to do quite as much and 6 days until the last exam.  And yep, I crushed the first one, my first ever 100% on a 3 hour exam!  It was computer science so you found out if each question was correct in real time.

            5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

             

            2024 Races:

            Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

            Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34

            Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

            Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

            Fredford66


            Waltons ThreadLord

              Good luck Fred!  Definitely sounds like good conditions, especially after what was served up last year.

               

               

              Thanks.  Yes, so very much better than last year.

              5k 23:48.45 (3/22); 4M 31:26 (2/22); 5M 38:55 (11/23); 10k 49:24 (10/22); 
              10M 1:29:33 (2/24); Half 1:48:32 (10/22); Marathon 4:29:58 (11/23)

              Upcoming races: Scotch Plains 5k, 6/12; Firecracker 4-miler, 7/4

               

              JoshWolf


              Part of TLC

                Good luck to you, Fred. Have an extraordinary day! May the weather gods be with you.

                Don't hurry - next AG will start 2026

                darkwave


                Mother of Cats

                  Good luck Fred!  Is there a bib # you can share?  (sorry if I missed it)

                  Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

                   

                  And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.

                  Marky_Mark_17


                    All the best Fred!  My brother is running too.  It will be his first marathon.

                    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                    * Net downhill course

                    Last race: Runway5 / National 5k Champs, 16:22, National Masters AG Champ!

                    Up next: Still working on that...

                    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                    Marky_Mark_17


                      My week done and dusted.  Malaysia (coming into rainy season) was super humid as expected... I ventured outside for one run in KLCC Park but otherwise stuck to the hotel treadmill.  Didn't get much time for sightseeing given there was a pretty packed agenda, but my hotel room was on the 25th floor, overlooking KLCC Park and looking directly at Petronas Tower so that was pretty cool.  The food and hospitality were great, only downside was my flight out was late so although I made my connection in Singapore back to Auckland, my bag didn't - although it did arrive on my doorstep less than 24 hours later.  Very impressed with Singapore Airlines - between sorting that efficiently and their very friendly and helpful flight attendants, I would go out of my way to fly with them again.

                       

                      Weekly for period: From: 30/10/2023 To 05/11/2023

                      <caption>Weekly Grid</caption>
                      Date Name mi km Duration Avg/mi Avg/km Elevation Gain
                      in m
                      30/10 That run with the first treadmill session in ages 6.41 10.31 00:46:26 07:15 04:30 0
                      31/10 That run with laps of KLCC Park 6.32 10.17 00:50:08 07:56 04:56 67
                      01/11 That run with a bit more treadmill 6.48 10.42 00:46:27 07:10 04:27 0
                      03/11 That run where I’m home but my bag is not (yet) 7.09 11.40 00:48:13 06:48 04:14 66
                      04/11 That run where my bag did arrive in the end 8.77 14.11 01:00:36 06:55 04:18 186
                      05/11 That run where the Scott Point water fountain is already busted 😢 14.31 23.03 01:37:12 06:48 04:13 204

                      Totals: Time: 05:49:02 - 🦅Imperial: 49.37 mi - Metric: 79.44 km

                      3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                      10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                      * Net downhill course

                      Last race: Runway5 / National 5k Champs, 16:22, National Masters AG Champ!

                      Up next: Still working on that...

                      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                      Fredford66


                      Waltons ThreadLord

                        Good luck Fred!  Is there a bib # you can share?  (sorry if I missed it)

                         

                        24930

                         

                        I'll probably cross the start line around 9:50 am eastern standard time (we set the clocks back tonight).

                         

                        Darkwave, Josh, Mark - thanks.  :-)

                        5k 23:48.45 (3/22); 4M 31:26 (2/22); 5M 38:55 (11/23); 10k 49:24 (10/22); 
                        10M 1:29:33 (2/24); Half 1:48:32 (10/22); Marathon 4:29:58 (11/23)

                        Upcoming races: Scotch Plains 5k, 6/12; Firecracker 4-miler, 7/4

                         

                        JamesD


                        JamesD

                          Good luck, Fred!  I hope it helps to be on the right side of the time change. At least you'll get an extra hour of sleep.

                           

                          Steve - Glad your partner is doing better.  Hope the horse is ok.

                           

                          Please excuse the following whining, but I’m getting really tired of having a new issue every week.  Was sneezing a lot last weekend, and it turned into sinus trouble that kept me in bed from Monday (after a surprisingly decent run) through Wednesday.  Last November something similar morphed into a chest issue, maybe bronchitis, just before my goal half, so I suppose it’s better that this happened sooner this year.  I did turn a planned 5-mile tempo Friday, which would’ve been my longest this year, into a 3-mile one.  Pace was ok, & I felt reasonably strong, but my lungs hurt afterwards, so we’ll see how things go.  At least last week’s issue, my back, is doing better.

                           

                          I’m also having the same sort of pre-half uncertainty that I had last year.  Found out today that the poorly organized half I ran last year has been postponed to next March.  My options are:

                          1. A small locally run half that’s a week from today.  DW will do the 5K.  Weather looks good (53F/12C), but so far only one person around my speed (he may be a bit faster) has signed up, along with a couple of teenagers who may have improved since their last races.  Running alone most of the way would defeat the purpose of racing for me.  The signup deadline is Thursday, so I’ll taper this week and check back in a few days to see if anyone else has registered and whether the forecast still looks good.
                          2. A big Thanksgiving Day half in Atlanta.  Current weather forecast isn’t bad (47/8), but it’s almost 3 weeks away, so who knows.  Competition would be very good, and it would be a chance to see how I measure up against the state’s fastest runners in my age group (I think I’m about 6th).  On the other hand, I'm not in great shape, Atlanta is very hilly, and my hamstrings might not do well.  Need to look for a hotel.
                          3. Wait for the early-January local half that almost certainly will have people for me to run with.  Temperature is the issue; it’s rarely warm enough that time of year for me to want to race.  The current forecast looks unseasonably warm, but two months out that’s just a guess.

                          Sun - 44 minutes swimming

                          Mon - 8.3 miles in park PM @ 8:32

                          Tues-Weds - off sick

                          Thurs - 4 miles very slow treadmill (48:15) + 0:40 walk breaks/6 mins

                          Fri - 6.3 miles in park PM including 3 @ 7:04 

                          Sat - 6.2 miles in park PM @ 8:56

                           

                          Total - 25.1 miles

                          YTD Average - 36.6 mpw



                          Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (2020)

                          '24 Goals: consistency, age-graded PRs, half < 1:32

                          watsonc123


                            James - Sorry, I don't know what would be best.

                             

                            Mark - really nice week given the travel.  Good you got your bags back.

                             

                            Fred - good luck.

                             

                            My week was pretty good.  It's below (plus one mobility and strength session).  ParkRun went pretty well, my aim was to sneak under 21:00.  I just missed out.  It was pretty much where I thought I was.  I managed to negative split (by 2s), which is the first race I have negative split for ages.

                             

                            Weekly for period: From: 30/10/2023 To 05/11/2023

                            <caption>Weekly Grid</caption>
                            Date Name mi km Duration Avg/mi Avg/km Elevation Gain
                            in m
                            30/10 Afternoon Ride 1.58 2.54 00:10:13 06:28 04:01 17
                            30/10 Afternoon Ride 1.59 2.55 00:08:00 05:02 03:08 11
                            31/10 Warm Up 2.18 3.51 00:18:57 08:42 05:24 11
                            31/10 Warm Up #2 0.27 0.44 00:02:34 09:30 05:50 0
                            31/10 Drills then 4 * (800 tempo, 30s rest, 200 quick, 200 walk) 3.45 5.56 00:31:55 09:15 05:44 0
                            31/10 Cool Down 2.19 3.53 00:20:45 09:28 05:53 23
                            01/11 Evening Run 8.56 13.78 01:20:10 09:22 05:49 34
                            02/11 Evening Run 3.33 5.36 00:30:01 09:01 05:36 20
                            03/11 Lunch Ride 5.68 9.14 00:30:46 05:25 03:22 26
                            03/11 Evening Run 1.62 2.61 00:15:01 09:16 05:45 5
                            04/11 Morning Run 2.36 3.80 00:20:44 08:47 05:27 12
                            04/11 Trentham ParkRun 21:00 3.09 4.98 00:20:59 06:47 04:13 14
                            04/11 Morning Run 2.36 3.80 00:22:10 09:24 05:50 24
                            04/11 Afternoon Ride 5.57 8.96 00:29:21 05:16 03:17 30
                            05/11 Morning Ride 1.58 2.54 00:09:38 06:06 03:48 16
                            05/11 Morning Ride 1.60 2.57 00:08:57 05:36 03:29 10

                            Totals: Time: 06:00:11 - 🦅Imperial: 29.44 mi - Metric: 47.37 km (Bike 28.30km)

                            PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                             

                            40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                             

                            2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                             

                            2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                            JamesD


                            JamesD

                              Fred’s through halfway at 2:04:15.  Seems to be slowing slightly, though I don’t know if that’s due to hills or rising temperatures.

                              Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (2020)

                              '24 Goals: consistency, age-graded PRs, half < 1:32

                              darkwave


                              Mother of Cats

                                Fred’s through halfway at 2:04:15.  Seems to be slowing slightly, though I don’t know if that’s due to hills or rising temperatures.

                                 

                                I've been tracking several people today - have only seen positive splits.  It was perfect weather here in DC, but I understand that NYC was actually warmer than we were this morning, so my hunch is that heat is becoming a factor.

                                 

                                James - I'm sorry about the continued run of bad luck.  With regard to the race choices, it seems to me that you could pick 2 of the 3.  I don't see why you couldn't race a half-marathon in November, and then another in early January.  So then the choice is just between next weekend or Turkey day.

                                 

                                Marky_Mark - business travel always sounds exciting until you realize that you're just in a conference room all day.

                                 

                                ****

                                My week:

                                 

                                66 miles running, 1500 yards swimming, and 90 minutes pool-running.
                                M: 90 minutes pool-running
                                T: 10 miles, including a track workout of 4x1200, 400 in 5:22, 5:15, 5:06, 5:01 and 1:34 (recoveries of 3:08-3:32 after the 1200s). Followed with leg strengthwork and 500 yards recovery swimming.
                                W: 11 miles very easy (9:22) including some grass running and some drills
                                Th: 7 miles trail running (10:32) and streaming pilates
                                F: 10.5 miles, including a 6400m tempo on the track in 28:05 (7:08/7:05/6:59/6:53), plus 2x200 in 48 seconds each. Followed with leg strengthwork and 500 yards recovery swimming.
                                Sa: 11 miles very easy (9:32) followed by streaming pilates
                                Su: 16 miles progressive, split as the first 5 miles averaging 9:30 pace, the next 5 miles averaging 8:03 pace, and the next 6 miles averaging 7:30 pace. Followed with injury prevention work and 500 yards recovery swimming.

                                 

                                Nothing terribly exciting - just trying to bounce from Chicago to Houston (which is now 9 weeks away).

                                Everyone's gotta running blog; I'm the only one with a POOL-RUNNING blog.

                                 

                                And...if you want a running Instagram where all the pictures are of cats, I've got you covered.