ultimate runner's test...... (Read 4097 times)

Geez, haven't you guys been paying ANY attention. You can jester 20% better if you take OFF the curly Q shoes.

But the hat is a valuable training tool. If you can run without jingling the bells you have truly mastered jestering.

Mmmmm, but, leaving out the hat makes you more vulnerable to brown bear attacks?

My own world record is in rowing. My student is world record holder Sandy Snakenberg in long distance skating for 24 hours http://www.fasst.com/world-records.htm What you'll notice is that his hands are tucked into his torso, not swinging as a traditional skater would waste in energy and aerodynamic wind resistance. Why swing your arms into the wind at 25MPH, what's the energy advantage in doing that? Chi Running and even the "Pose" method preach forward lean not for speed, but for comfort. Here's the story guys, the top coaches are teaching those who want to finish a marathon, not win one... Going down the list, is Jack (put a fifth in me and I'll tell you what I really think)Daniels. You know his 180 steps per minute joke is foundation for most of what you read as "advice." So please explain to me why under formal testing, his joke can't hold up? http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/short/89/5/1991 Even with Romanov as a participant, under clinical trials, his own technqiues couldn't hold up. http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tandf/rjsp/2005/00000023/00000007/art00013 Oh wait a minute, his "science" of "Letting gravity pull you forward" is based upon the brilliant science of Daniels.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrB3dsZMK_k Oh and Chi running... Even he can't get his facts straight... Do cheetahs lean forward, "At full speed, that big cat leans forward, fully extending its legs behind its body. That's the source of its power and momentum" http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-369-370--12184-0,00.html If one claims facts, facts shouldn't change.... As Dreyer changes his mimicry of the cat. The way cats run hasn't changed, but Dreyer has a different reason this week for you. Ask him today, and he'll tell you that the cheetah uses their spine for speed. And if that were true, then there's nothing that humans could learn from a cat, simply because we don't use our spine in running... Oh wait a minute.. Because when you ask biologists how a cat runs, the spine has nothing to do with it... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8747190?ordinalpos=168&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum And of course there's no mention of forward lean in the link whatsoever... If you're a deciple of of Dreyer, can you explain his ignorance? Ok, so lets get back to Dreyers inconsistancies. If the cheetah has speed as forte, and we domesticated the horse for its distance running skills, then can you tell me the difference in their running techniques if the both have four legs? And in that light, if anyone knew anything about using an animal role model, then why hasn't anyone mentioned the cockroach? The American cockroach runs on two legs, and with optimum stride length, not high turnover rates... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2051129?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=4&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed So if we're going to use an animal for a reference, I'll choose the cockroach over any weasel named Dreyer... And does running with unnatural forward lean have an advantage? Of course, its a much more comfortable way to run, not a faster one or a more economical way to run. If you can't figure that out, then it tell me what you know about running. And you can always ask Dreyer to join this discussion, I'll gladly prove my point with him as well....

You're right Mikey... And yes, there is a skill in my science as I so write. Especially since I had to wait for years for the above quotes to help tell my story. And if you want to go even further, I can give you this reference. Yes, I teach linear running, because other animals use it. The world's top two legged animal is the ostrich, so why don't they run in parallel leg swing as humas do. Considering their genetically linked to 163 million year old bipedal athletes who did the same? http://paleo.cc/paluxy/ovrdino.htm http://home.alphalink.com.au/~dannj/winton.htm And in the question of the world's top two runners Here's my favorite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aFnETc1kwM&feature=related

Here's my favorite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aFnETc1kwM&feature=related

I don't get it. The cheetah got the ostrich. I don't wanna be an ostrich. But I figured, in 25 pages of redundancies there might be some kernel of truth. So I went to the gym yesterday, took off my shoes, put 60kg of firewood on my head and went for a walk on the treadmill. Dang if I didn't feel just like a Kenyan woman. It was great: hardly breaking a sweat and definitely going 20% faster than my normal shoeless treadmill walking speed. But then I stumbled, the firewood fell off my head & onto the machine next to mine, the woman on that went a$$ over teakettle, both treadmills were destroyed, the woman is in hospital with severe concussion and blathering "Kill, Kill", which I take to be a referrence to hunters on the savanna. I hate it when that happens. So now I owe thousands to the gym & I'll let you know how the lawsuit turns out.

Weird. I too dropped some wood whilst toiling away on the treadmill. It also resulted in a lawsuit. Ponderous...

What, you didn't like the car crash? Or was it that the ostrich could out cut the cheetah in cornering. Too bad you see it as a joke, when you're looking at a model to save your knees in downhill running..

To address your issues, What you saw in the video is that a 350lb 7ft tall two legged athlete (Hey that's Shaquille O'Neal isn't it?) which can out perform any human the same size. And with the ability to execute a ninety degree turn at full speed, will never be achieved by a human at any speed running downhill. http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/abstract/210/17/2949 Considering that painful knees are regularly noted by runners, the ostrich in ability can teach a human how to execute up to a 180 degree directional change with no torque loads to their knees http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/abstract/210/8/1378 Why not acknowledge an impeccable bipedal athlete can teach another two legged athletes? http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/210/8/i?etoc An ostrich could out turn a cheetah and not lose traction. A physical skill humans can't execute at 40MPH at all.... Limiting vertical rise is easy to put in print, so please tell me how Joe Friel tells you how to do it? I'm simply pointing out that the women of Kenya perfected it, and nobody can reproduce that skill, including Friel. It requires understanding and mastering of your center of mass. Where does Friel point that out?