Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2018 (Read 704 times)

Marky_Mark_17


    Steve - will do.  I am likely coming down for NZ Road Relays (Sat 6 Oct) but might be down before then for work as well, doing a project with Environment Canterbury at the moment.

     

    Piwi - tough week but smart to listen to the body and take it easy.

     

    Watson - you will be counting down to the move I'm sure but sounds like it's all progressing pretty well.

     

    Bro - great job on the W.  It is a pretty cool feeling to cross the line first.

     

    Rune - great week and (still) loving the pictures on Strava. I would post pics of my runs but they'd mostly be dark and boring at the moment haha.

     

    Keen - great week.  We might have another one but our 16 month old is plenty of kid for now, she is awesome but very full-on.  We will see how we go in a year or two although we probably don't want to leave our run too late.

    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

    * Net downhill course

    Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

    Up next: Runway5, 4 May

    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

    SteveChCh


    Hot Weather Complainer

      flavio1980 - haha, well to really mess with your OCD, it's never perfectly even duration because I do loops and speed sections which can mess it up...I just call the runs the expected duration but if you calculated the speed x distance you'd find I'm usually a few minutes over. For weights I just use dumbells and an ab slide and do a mix of chest, shoulders, biceps, abs. I'll add squats and calf lifts to every second session.

      bro - nice win...I've never come close except at school. The positive about my next race (Hagley) being a small Sri Chinmoy is based on previous years times I should get top 5.

      Mark - Sounds good, if schedules permit could do an easy Hagley Park run or an easier pint.  Easy run would have to be easy by my standards if you want any decent conversation...

      5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

       

      2024 Races:

      Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

      Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34

      Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

      Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

      Marky_Mark_17


        Steve - will keep you posted. No idea what the club travel plans are yet but suspect there will likely be post-race drinking on the Saturday afternoon (the relay itself goes from CHC to Akaroa).

        3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

        10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

        * Net downhill course

        Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

        Up next: Runway5, 4 May

        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

        SteveChCh


        Hot Weather Complainer

          That sounds like me, Saturday afternoon drinks are always a winner.

          5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

           

          2024 Races:

          Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

          Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34

          Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

          Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

          watsonc123


            Christchurch to Akaroa is a long way!  Are you sure that's right?

            PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

             

            40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

             

            2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

             

            2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

              https://takahe2akaroa.nz/

               

              I just googled it out of interest: 8 lap relay from takahe to akaroa, 48 miles and been held since 1935!

              HM: 1:47 (9/20) I FM: 3:53:11 (9/23)

               

              2024 Goals: run a FM & HM + stay healthy!

                Bros nice RR  and congrats on the W!

                PR's

                1m  5:38 (2018)

                5k    19:59 (2019)

                HM  1:33:56 (2018)

                FM  3:23:07 (2018)

                JMac11


                RIP Milkman

                  I'm on vacation this week, I promise I will catch up with everyone's statuses at some point. Here's my week last week. Just quick recap: I missed my PR by 2 seconds with a 17:53 on Sunday. I actually finished 3 OA, which is nice because I've never finished that high. A little disappointed that I"m not seeing gains in fitness, but I guess I shouldn't expect too much given I'm in the middle of marathon training and not trained for the 5K distance at all.

                   

                  One quick observation: I always take 2 days off before my races and then run 3-4 miles the day before. I think this is pretty standard because people say their legs are flat if they don't run the day before the race. Anyway, I ended up missing both days of running, and my legs felt GREAT going into the race. So I guess I don't have to worry about sneaking a run in the day before a race. But I have a feeling I'll stick with it for the marathon.

                   

                   

                   

                  Weekly Summary
                  Monday, Jul 16, 2018 thru Sunday, Jul 22, 2018

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                  Day Miles Pace Description Link
                  Tue 10.0 7:56 Evening Run strava
                  Wed 14.2 7:37 6E + 3T + 2T + 1T + 2E (T@6:08) strava
                  Thu 5.8 8:51 Morning Run strava
                  Sun 1.6 8:20 Morning Run strava
                  Sun 3.1 5:41 Heart & Sole 5K strava
                  Sun 0.9 8:49 Morning Run strava
                    35.6 7:47  

                  5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                   

                   

                  watsonc123


                    JMac - nice race, your pacing was excellent.  Given the warmth, I think you're in PR shape on a still, cool, flat course.

                     

                    For me, I don't think running the day before a race helps.  Although a small run doesn't do any harm either.  I suspect some people go flat with a few days off, whereas other's end up refreshed.

                    PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                     

                    40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                     

                    2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                     

                    2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                      I think it depends on your training load etc on whether you dont run in the day/days before a race. I remember in 2014 running the day before my marathon as per the Pfitz plan. I met up with Rachallera in Melbourne for a pre race shake out. She is a very experienced marathoner and high mileage runner. The taper starting back 3 weeks really sets you up for the race though. I think we ran 6kms at 5 min/km the day before.

                       

                      Im having another bad week. I ran up the Mount on monday and felt pretty average after and then went to the dentist on tuesday for what I thought might be a filling but he ended taking out one of my wisdom teeth. It rolled out really easily but I started to feel yuck later that day and this morning with chills and achey. Im now feeling alot better this afternoon so hopefully will get in a run tomorrow.

                      55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                      " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                      Somewhere in between is about right "      

                       

                      Marky_Mark_17


                        Watson - yeah, it's a relay so as MJ says it's 48 miles total split across 8 legs.  Most teams will have one runner for each leg, although if numbers are light some runners will do 2 legs.  Last year's race was in Rotorua, and was essentially the marathon course plus a few extra detours.

                         

                        JMac- I wouldn't stress too much.  5km's can be pretty hit or miss.  Getting that close to PB mid-cycle and without any specific 5k work is pretty impressive.

                         

                        Pre-race running - I have always been a big fan of a short run (~30 mins) with a few fast efforts the day before the race, having taken the previous day off.  Just gets the legs turning over, really. To be honest I've never tried anything else, its just become a routine, and it seems to have worked so I have no reason to change it.  I remember feeling totally amazing when I did that run before the marathon last year (it probably contributed to me starting much too quickly in said marathon).

                         

                        For Taupo HM next week, a different strategy is probably called for given that we're driving down the day before the race.  Most likely I will do half an hour with a couple of short fast bits 2 days prior, and then have a very light jog (20 mins) once we get to Taupo the afternoon before the race, just to loosen the body up after the drive (probably ~4 hours or so).

                         

                        Piwi - hope that wisdom tooth is feeling better.  I had mine out 20 years or so ago.  I actually had 5 of them (4 proper ones and one funny little tiny one).  I'm not sure if that makes me super-wise or just a mutant.

                        3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                        10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                        * Net downhill course

                        Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                        Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                        watsonc123


                          Whoever has the runs up the hill before Akaroa needs to be mighty hill climber.  It is steep and long.

                          PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                           

                          40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                           

                          2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                           

                          2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                            JMac Nice race

                            Piwi hope you feel better

                            PR's

                            1m  5:38 (2018)

                            5k    19:59 (2019)

                            HM  1:33:56 (2018)

                            FM  3:23:07 (2018)

                            CommanderKeen


                            Cobra Commander Keen

                              Piwi - Glad you're already feeling better.


                              JMac - 2 seconds off a PR plus 3rd OA is super-impressive with no 5k specific training. Especially the placing, given your locale.


                              Pre-race/taper running - I typically like to run all my regular days, but may severely reduce the distance/time compared to a "regular" week. Typically I'll just do ~2 miles easy the day before along with a couple strides.

                               

                              Great weather this morning. The first sub-70F/21C day in a long time.

                              5k: 17:58 11/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 2:56:05 12/22

                               

                              Upcoming Races:

                               

                              OKC Memorial 5k - April 27

                              Bun Run 5k - May 4

                               

                              flavio80


                              Intl. correspondent

                                Bro - as others have said, tempo runs must be run at even pace. Always at current fitness pace, not desired fitness pace.

                                 

                                I believe you should do your tempo runs at an even 6:45/mi pace (4:12/km), which should take you under 90 minutes for the half even if the race is a bit long. Start with 3 miles, then 4, 5 and finally 6 miles closer to the race. Add it to the tail end of a 15 mile long run if they're feeling too easy.

                                 

                                Keen - I have nothing else to say besides awesome week.

                                 

                                Steve - thanks, that sounds like a good distribution of weight training.

                                 

                                Steve/Mark - From past history, if you run together Steve will suffer to keep up, but if you drink together Mark will suffer to keep up .

                                 

                                Jmac - you were within 2 seconds of your PR on a hot day. That is PROGRESS!

                                 

                                Piwi - If I were you I’d schedule a 5K soon, I’m sure you will run faster with the lower weight 

                                My wisdom teeth were sideways and required surgery for extraction. Luckily I have week teeth so I didn't suffer much other than the usual drooling post surgery as the anesthesia wore down.

                                PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

                                Up next: some 800m race (or time trials) / Also place in the top 20% in a trail race

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