Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2018 (Read 704 times)

Guys, don’t worry about propolis. MickJogger was doing 2 google searches at the same time (propolis and also a certain medical condition) and he’s got his browser tabs confused 

jmac - got me haha! There was a day where I was barely walking. I’m thinking maybe lack of preventive work + all the walking flared up the fasciitis

MJ - to get the hips moving there’s a local drink called Catuaba. That’s what a friend told me.

Marco - thanks for defending my honor haha, yeah propolis is awesome

Piwi - you must have elephant memory to remember what to say. Either that or I have gold fish memory

Mark - I can see you were kicking ass in races while I was on vacation. Great job as usual.

Matt - welcome aboard, it’s good to have another speedster on the group.

The best thing you can do for the terminology is to buy the kindle book from Daniels, it’s $13 on amazon.

Since you’re at also pick up Advanced marathoning from Pfitzinger and the one from the hansons brothers.

These 3 should give you a good idea about all the concepts and also introduce you to the different kinds of training schools out there.

For instance I could never use Daniels training plans, I’d get injured on the 2nd day and it frequently uses back to back intervals and stuff like that.

Pfitz also is not a good fit for me as it has a 39K long run in the marathon plan.

Hansons seems a perfect fit for where I’m at right now.

For each person one of these or a slight variation of them will be best.

Flavio- I do not have a coach, I just recently graduated high school, so 1. I never needed one in years past because our school had a cross country/track coach and 2. I do not have the financial capability to be able to hire coaching, and I do not expect my parents to pay for that.

Maybe down the line, I could find a coach to get me to the next level, but currently, I am coaching myself. I am open to suggestions for the future.

Piwi - I don't do the book of faces thing, so that's out. I am really close to OKC, a 20-25 minute drive is all it takes to get there, but any more than once a week and that really starts to cut in to sleep/running/family time. I'm a pretty quiet/introverted guy though, and running solo the vast majority of the time suits me. A change every once-in-a-while is good, though.

Matt - What race distances are you looking for?
As for Daniels, the R paced workouts are typically around mile pace and are there to improve speed/economy. Because of this the rest periods aren't specific times - take as long as you need to recover in order to finish the workout.
I workouts are VO2Max stuff, typically about 4k-5k pace. These are there to improve aerobic power. Recovery times are fixed here in order to keep recoveries short enough that you get a good amount of time at VO2Max in order to prompt improvement.
T work is the classic lactate threshold/1 hour race pace stuff to improve endurance.

M pace seems mostly there in order to help with the mental side of things, though when done for long enough can turn into a threshold workout itself. Daniels' M pace as an actual race pace seems pretty "optimistic" for most people, and the consensus around here seems to be that it would take a lot of time at 70+mpw or be really on the endurance side of the endurance/speed balance before it would like up to real life. All of the other paces seem to me to be spot on, though.
https://runsmartproject.com/calculator/ - This will let you know what your training paces should be according to Daniels. Just be sure to use a race or time trial that represents your current fitness if you use the calculator.
Personally, I find the I(nterval) work the hardest while I LOVE T(hreshold) work but YMMV.

DWave - Lol!

I tried out my new racing flats this morning. I almost went for a short, easy run instead since my right calf has felt a little tight lately. WU/CD I did in my everyday Escalantes, and just used the flats for the speed work. Impressions:
WOW, those things practically disappear compared to my everyday shoes. They were comfy, but certainly not cushy, and I could really feel the track surface better than before. Very breathable, too. I'll definitely be wearing them for a 5k next week.

Surprisingly, my calf actually felt better while wearing the flats than it did before I put them on. Maybe the lesser weight helped?

The pink colour is the same as alot of the shoes I buy 

Does it match the chilli's? 

Keen - I am definitely a solo runner too for the most part.  It's nice to run with others sometimes e.g. I've been for a couple runs with Piwi when he's been up in Auckland.  But, mostly I just like to do my own thing.  As well as its many other benefits, running is a great way to just clear the mind and relax!

 

Keen - I am definitely a solo runner too for the most part.  It's nice to run with others sometimes e.g. I've been for a couple runs with Piwi when he's been up in Auckland.  But, mostly I just like to do my own thing.  As well as its many other benefits, running is a great way to just clear the mind and relax!

How do those runs work? Do you slow down, does he speed up, or both? I think I could use you as a pacer this Sunday for a marathon pace run, it's equal to your easy run pace 

Keen - It's funny how someone can love certain paces. I have such a strong love/hate with T pace. I look forward to the workouts so much, but when you're on the third interval of a 3x2 mile T session, I'm in so much misery and wonder why I do this to myself. I never feel that way during I pace work, it just sucks for like 1 minute at a time, not an agonizing 5+ minutes.

Keen- Anything from 5k to marathon, I'll probably be racing a little of everything over the next four years to test the waters a bit. I'm mostly looking for something that isn't just your average local 5k fun run though, something that brings competition. Thank you for the explanation of the Daniels terminology, that makes more sense now. R pace is for anaerobic benefit while I and T are for aerobic benefit. We did mostly T efforts in high school, a bit of R type intervals, but almost no I type workouts, so the I is completely new to me.

Flavio- USA didn't make the World Cup, so I'm rooting for England this time around (my best childhood friend was from England and a big soccer fan)

Ive only seen bit and pieces of the worldcup so far but its high drama. Soccer players never make a great impression when they pretend to be injured after a slo mo replay shows nothing and Maradonna has definitely had a few too many drugs 😀

Jmac obviously I slow down for Mark !😀

I usually jog at about 9 min mile to meet him and then try for 6.48 mile pace haha. Luckily last time we ran he was coming back from injury....

Mark/mick please dont get me started on the chillies again 😀

Matt yes it would be nice to see England go all the way. Im english and my mother is german but Im a kiwi now.

Flavio while you were away I was lazy too with 30 and 50 km weeks 😀