Goal of Sub-3 Hour Marathon (Read 15845 times)

There were @ 800 spots a week ago - The last 800 go really fast

Good luck Alan, everything looks good for you.

I was there in 2006 Grandmas - Foolishly did not respect the heat and humidity and was going for broke to run sub 6:15 pace. Ran 30:40 for 5 miles - already leaving sweat foot prints - Dropped @ 16 - Stupid race strategy - My only DNF, but a smart choice. Weight is a huge deal - Losing 10-11 pounds = 11/155 = 7.1% of body weight If running effeciency is ideal, a drop in weight with all other factors constant (Muscle mass & training) 155 = 70.45 Kg 144 = 65.45 kg 3:07:43 is 50.9 Vdot x 70.45 kg = 3586 MMo2 3586 / 65.45 kg = 54.8 Vdot 54.8 Vdot = 2:56:30 marathon That is not gurantee - Just a data point Data point # 2 = 1/2 marathon in 1:24:06 = Vdot 55.1 = Marathon in 2:55:40 Data point # 3 = March and April @ 240 miles per month 55 MPW You have a lot of possitive data points that would indicate success in sub 3:00 attempt - The next month will be very important - good training, good eating, hydration, sleep - Good taper - Good race strategy execution. I believe its all there for you if you go out and get it.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Dopple Bock. I appreciate the calculations you did for me! Your experience at '06 Grandma's brought back memories - that was one tough day to run a marathon. I'm just trying to train to the level so that I can get the sub-3 even if it ends up like '06 or '07 there. Good luck at FANS. I'd like to see you break Danny's record there. Jim, thanks for adding me to the list. I'll try my best to accomplish it. John

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Dopple Bock. I appreciate the calculations you did for me! Your experience at '06 Grandma's brought back memories - that was one tough day to run a marathon. I'm just trying to train to the level so that I can get the sub-3 even if it ends up like '06 or '07 there. Good luck at FANS. I'd like to see you break Danny's record there. Jim, thanks for adding me to the list. I'll try my best to accomplish it. John

I think if you keep doing what got you to this point in time you will be fine - Just be smart and run to the weather at Grandmas - I ran 2007 and ran a lot smarter and ran 2:50:00 (Damn 1 second)

I am running the Med City Marathon sunday and I was wondering if I would try to break three there, but I don't think I will. I had a strange stomach problem come on this week that forced me to eat virtually nothing for the last couple days and i had some difficulty drinking also, so I felt pretty dehydrated. I don't think that is the type of depletion that is recommended for the week before a marathon. So instead, if I decide to run I probably will take it easy and go for 3:10 to 3:15. I will save my three hour try to Garndma's next month.

I am running the Med City Marathon sunday and I was wondering if I would try to break three there, but I don't think I will. I had a strange stomach problem come on this week that forced me to eat virtually nothing for the last couple days and i had some difficulty drinking also, so I felt pretty dehydrated. I don't think that is the type of depletion that is recommended for the week before a marathon. So instead, if I decide to run I probably will take it easy and go for 3:10 to 3:15. I will save my three hour try to Garndma's next month.

Why waste the effort and 'take it easy' at 3:10 to 3:15 (especially with Grandma's in a month)? If you are only marginally able to run 3:00 then, to me, a 3:10 marathon isn't all that easy! If it were me (and it's not!) I'd either go for it or scratch and wait for Grandma's. Best of luck to you at Med City if you decide to run.

+1 I paced GB 3:10 group 4-5 weeks before Grandmas - I was shooting for 2:43 - weather and pacing the 3:10 group got in the way. Just like I know it is a mistake to run Green Bay this year 3 weeks before my goal race of FANS24 - It will cost me something - not sure how many miles - but it will cost. I am hoping my high mileage allows me to get away with it and still hit my goals for FANS. To me great marathon training flows, cycles - In the last 6 weeks before the marathon is when all the finishing touches to training and geting your body to peak just right for the big day. I think even an all out half marathon 4 weeks out might be a bit much - Ideally I would race 1/2 marathon 6 weeks out, a 10k 4 weeks out and a 5k 2 weeks out. But we all have things we want to do and they are not always right for ideal training. If I were able to jog a marathon at 8:00 pace, 4-6 weeks out, I do not think it would be much of a negative, but I can not and if I could ... whats the point to pay someone a lot of money for my LSD run?