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Garmin mapping WAY off? (Read 746 times)


Get Lost :)

    Ever had your Garmin report a map that started way off and then managed to find its way back on course at some point? It's kind of bizarre. I hope it's not a common problem, because it kind of defeats the purpose.


    Patzer

      My Forerunner 305 is marvelously accurate on latitude and longitude, and bizarrely inaccurate on altitude.  It's sub-street level accurate on the map, but the elevation chart is usually wonky.  And I'm not near any tall buildings that could cause spurious reflections.

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      Hammy

        myy elevation is always way off. i will run hill repeats and on one lap to the next it is normaly off by 50 feet or more.
        1 mile: 5:41 2 mile: 11:43 5k: 19:56 Goals 1 mile: 5:30 2 mile: 12:00 5k:18:00 Dominate!


        jfa

          Yea , the elevation thing is off on my 305 too,which was disappointing on my trail runs. It also has an annoying habit of sometimes turning itself on and unexpectedly draining the battery.

           

           

           

           

           

           

            The US military controls the accuracy of GPS and can change it at any time. This could be one reason.

             


            Imminent Catastrophe

              There are lots and lots of threads discussing the elevation errors of GPS, right here in this Gears and Wears forum.

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                There are lots and lots of threads discussing the elevation errors of GPS, right here in this Gears and Wears forum.

                 The OP didn't mention elevation.

                 


                Get Lost :)

                  No, I am not talking elevation - I realize how off that is! One run I did recently has me starting in some random location about a mile away from the original start and wandering across/through buildings until it finally meets up with my actual route 2 miles later. Kind of bizarre -- was wondering it was preventable or if others had seen it, etc.


                  Lazy idiot

                    Have you checked your signal strength prior to starting?  I seem to recall Berner talking about that as one of the fields he had on one of his Garmin screens a while back.

                    Tick tock

                      If there is a way to get the Garmin to use more satellites, then yes it is preventable. However, I don't think there is a way.

                       


                      Imminent Catastrophe

                         The OP didn't mention elevation.

                         Nick Hamel, mordyovits and nj joe did.

                         

                        Incidentally there are also lots of threads on GPS position accuracy. The culprit is not enough satellites being "seen" by the watch, due to tall buildings, dense foliage, or terrain. Tall trees, especially if it's rained recently and they're wet, can cause problems.

                        The US military turned off selective availability several years ago and it's been off (more accurate) ever since.

                        There's a page on the watch that shows how many satellites are locked on, signal strength, and how accurate the postion fix is.

                        To answer wanderlost's question, IME, the problems are usually worst when starting out, when it's still searching for satellites.It will use as many satellites as it can, you don't have any control over that, other than getting to an open space.

                        "Able to function despite imminent catastrophe"

                         "To obtain the air that angels breathe you must come to Tahoe"--Mark Twain

                        "The most common question from potential entrants is 'I do not know if I can do this' to which I usually answer, 'that's the whole point'.--Paul Charteris, Tarawera Ultramarathon RD.

                         

                        √ Javelina Jundred Jalloween 2015

                        Cruel Jewel 50 mile May 2016

                        Western States 100 June 2016

                          No, I am not talking elevation - I realize how off that is! One run I did recently has me starting in some random location about a mile away from the original start and wandering across/through buildings until it finally meets up with my actual route 2 miles later. Kind of bizarre -- was wondering it was preventable or if others had seen it, etc.

                           

                          I too have noticed the innaccuracies from time to time with my 301 (I like the larger screen and hold it in my fingers instead of on the wrist so the size doesn't bother me). I went on a run a few weeks ago and checked out my mile 2 pace and continued runing. I ran for about a 1/2 mile and looked at my custom screen which has my heart rate, lap pace and distance. The distance was was at 2.1 miles and I knew that couldn't be right, but the timer seemed correct. When I got back, I uploaded to Garmin Connect and the route, which I've run before, was 0.4 miles short, although the line work was completely intact, but the time ws correct. Garmin Connect has no way of editing any data fields so I started searching for some new programs that would allow me to alter my running data.

                           

                          I started using SportTracks software recently to edit the route which in turn corrects your pace and mileage. I uploaded the aforementioned run data from my Garmin and it used the correct route length and adjust my pace accordingly. I love the program but wish it were available online so I could log on and upload from anywhere instead of being chained down to my pc. It would be great if RA could add that feature.

                           

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                            The US military controls the accuracy of GPS and can change it at any time. This could be one reason.

                             

                             

                            As a former military officer of 8 years, I would suspect this IS the problem....

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                            Prince of Fatness

                              Do you make sure it finds the signal before starting out?  I turn mine on and set it down, then do my prerun routine.  If you set it down after turning it on it stays still and tends to find the signal quicker.

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                              I've got a fever...

                                Do you make sure it finds the signal before starting out?  I turn mine on and set it down, then do my prerun routine.  If you set it down after turning it on it stays still and tends to find the signal quicker.

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                                I set my watch down in a spot that has a clear view of the sky, then I get dressed for the run.  The watch is always locked in by the time I'm ready to roll. 

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