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Shut up, Scout.
Feeling the growl again
"If you want to be a bad a$s, then do what a bad a$s does. There's your pep talk for today. Go Run." -- Slo_Hand
I am spaniel - Crusher of Treadmills
It IS intimidating to be new to the sport, but joining a running club or talking to more experience acquaintences is going to shorten the learning curve much faster and cheaper than trying to interpret reams of data.
How To Run a Marathon: Step 1 - start running. There is no Step 2.
Using the Garmin, however, I can do my repeats anywhere anytime.
I've got a fever...
Except for the treadmill. That would be frustrating as hell with a Garmin.
On your deathbed, you won't wish that you'd spent more time at the office. But you will wish that you'd spent more time running. Because if you had, you wouldn't be on your deathbed.
Seriously Jim, I can keep going with the questions, and you can can keep trying to show me up with little glib answers. But eventually I'll get to the minutia of LT paces, stride rates, VO2max intervals, HR reserve and the like, and eventually you'll have collectively written a very complex guide to running. And then my point will be proven: the simple is only simple until you start asking questions. In your honor, I'm renaming the "simplicity crowd." Henceforth you are the "simple minded." It fits you perfectly.
Good points regarding newer runners. I assure you I didn't jump into Pfitz or Daniel's training until I had 40 mile weeks and several HM's behind me. It did work wonders on first full, though, so I still think that a "new-ish" runner can definitely benefit from the structure provided by book plans. I want to throw in one more benefit of GPS devices: they allow folks without access to a track to run interval workouts using standard track metrics. In my case, there is no good running track available unless I were to drive to it. Using the Garmin, however, I can do my repeats anywhere anytime.
All answers must be applicable to runners of a wide-variety of experience and running base.
"You NEED to do this" - Shara
Breaking my self-imposed exit because you make it too easy. And because you get so smug thinking you have the final word. Define "extended." Define "interruption." In chart format. How many miles is that, exactly. In chart format. Please give me answers applicable to runners of a wide-variety of experience and running base. 51%? 99%? That's a 48% spread. Please provide a specific answer for every workout, in every week, for every training program from a 5K to a marathon. All answers must be applicable to runners of a wide-variety of experience and running base. How should I determine HRMax? Define "converse"? 1%? or 99%? That's a 98% spread. Please provide a specific answer for every workout, in every week, for every training program from a 5K to a marathon. All answers must be applicable to runners of a wide-variety of experience and running base. See above. Any other incomplete, useless, or anecdotal answers? Seriously Jim, I can keep going with the questions, and you can can keep trying to show me up with little glib answers. But eventually I'll get to the minutia of LT paces, stride rates, VO2max intervals, HR reserve and the like, and eventually you'll have collectively written a very complex guide to running. And then my point will be proven: the simple is only simple until you start asking questions. In your honor, I'm renaming the "simplicity crowd." Henceforth you are the "simple minded." It fits you perfectly.
I think both sides are talking past each other at this point. Ultimately, it doesn't matter so much whether you use gadgets or not. Both sides have their merits and detractors. That's a non-issue. However, at this point, I think it's become more of an attack on individuals, from both sides. This thread is great, it's full of useful information, and I think that big parts of the debate are good. But the name-calling and snide comments are not doing anyone here any good.
Good Bad & The Monkey
Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define Define ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Make it stop! I kissed a girl and I liked it.... Damn song is still stuck in my head. Carry on.
I'm running somewhere tomorrow. It's going to be beautiful. I can't wait.
Poor baby
~Gordo~
Ricky —our ability to perform up to our physiological potential in a race is determined by whether or not we truly psychologically believe that what we are attempting is realistic. Anton Krupicka