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Well for the third time this year I'm sick just before a race. It could be worse, it's not my main goal race and there's a Park Run every week but it's still very frustrating. Unless I suddenly improve it's unlikely I'll go for it and instead just focus on the 10km in 3 weeks and maybe look at a Park Run post-Melbourne.
5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23
2024 Races:
Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55
Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34
Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024
Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024
Mmmm Bop
Yep, it’s a free Park Run so you could always run it the following week I guess. Being sick 3 times in 6 months is unusual, what is the issue?
I felt the need to slip into my Air Relax compression boots yesterday for the first time in over a year! I'm not sure how much they actually help with recovery, but it’s a very relaxing experience.
5k - 17:53 (4/19) 10k - 37:53 (11/18) Half - 1:23:18 (4/19) Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)
Not an 80%er
Dave - I don't mean to throw water in your draft beer, but these calculators don't mean that much.Just think you may have a chance of a PR and work with that, let your training dictate your pace on race day.I suppose your quads will clear automagically, but yeah, some light foam rolling can help.
Keen - VdotO2 is an excellent platform. What's the name of your coach, if I may ask? I'll check out his profile out of curiosity.It's pretty cool that he joined there as it could bring him many runners.
Steve - It sounds like you're getting sick quite often, there might be some environmental factors at play. I know that cold and humid is a bad combination for my rinitis, for instance.
PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021
Up next: some 800m race (or time trials)
Tool to generate Strava weekly
I've recently came across this saying: "Some people eat to live, some people live to eat"
LOL I'm so much on that second group. When traveling to a different place I always have a to-do list of things to eat, and I definitely do not care as much about the landmarks.
Funny enough, recently we've been to Bordeaux and it was only after a bit of pressure from my father in law that I caved and tried a glass of Bordeaux wine.
But I was crazy about a local pastry that takes wine in the preparation (Canelé.
Food is in fact so important that I get cranky if I'm served bad food and I need to eat a satisfying meal at least once a week or else my mood will suffer.
But I know a few people who instead "eat to live". Eating for them is like a chore that they have to get through to avoid starvation.
Like my cousin and his wife. We'll to go a restaurant and they will always order just a few bytes of food and then imbibe themselves in a bunch of beers. And then they're just fine eating like 150 calories each. Coincidentally my in-laws are like that as well, maybe they're consuming all their calories via beer? dunno. It's mind boggling how they can live eating so little.
Are we there, yet?
I've recently came across this saying: "Some people eat to live, some people live to eat" LOL I'm so much on that second group. When traveling to a different place I always have a to-do list of things to eat, and I definitely do not care as much about the landmarks.
The food when traveling on vacation is definitely a focus, though so are landmarks. My main focus though is usually the scenery, hence my trips to Switzerland, Austria, Norway, parts of Canada, and various US national parks are my favorite trips.
As long as I'm posting, a short update on my status. The a-fib has made running erratic and unpredictable. Some days I can barely run-walk 3 miles, while yesterday I ran something close to a tempo workout. Weekly mileage has hovered between 25-30 mpw, well below what I had planned for the year.
Steve: hard training can suppress the immune system. Any correlation between you getting sick and how hard you've trained prior to the races when you got sick?
Dave: The calculators can be way off at times, but also make some basic assumptions that not only include training level and mileage, but equivalent course and weather conditions, and what is often overlooked, race day execution. If everything falls into place I can see you running sub-3:10.
03/09 - Livingston Oval Ultra 6-Hour, 22.88 miles
05/11 - D3 50K, 9:11:09 05/25 - What the Duck 12-Hour
06/17 - 6 Days in the Dome 12-Hour.
Overweight per CDC BMI
Salt is salt. I get the cheapest thing I can find on Amazon. You don't need any of the fillers they put in. The key is to take the salt pills and right dose for the temperature. I will take up to 3 pills a hour on days hotter than 90 degrees.
Krash, I am not sure you have enough running experience to comment.... Joking aside, so the magnesium, potassium, etc. are just the fillers? I know the salt is the most important electrolyte but the others aren't really worth it?
Strength work - So after my 5k Sunday, the lower part of my hamstrings were abnormally sore compared to everything else. I normally get soreness in my upper hamstrings and hips after a fast race but these were fine this time so it looks like some of the strength work I put in help there. What I am neglecting with my lower hamstrings? Is this just lack of fast running this summer or do I need target that area better during strength work? I am sure the answer is both but looking for a specific exercise.
One thing which has helped me with my Piriformis pain is doing reverse lunges but pulling my back foot 4-6 inches past the other foot laterally (right foot going left of my left foot). When I come up from that position, I am kicking that back foot forward to make sure I power through the whole motion to simulate a powerful stride.
Memphis / 38 male
5k - 20:39 / 10k - 43:48 / Half - 1:34:47 / Full - 3:38:10
I think it's just that your weak area moves over time as you get more and more balanced in your strength. I'd say keep doing the basics well and having an overall well balanced routine that works the whole body.
The key thing is that the stronger your core is, the more stable you are running and thus you can run more with less effort, and due to being more stable your other muscles don't have to work so hard to balance anything.
I would never say that I live to eat, but I’ll go to a decent restaurant at least once a week and always cook fresh as I enjoy it and find it very therapeutic and it’s probably the only reason why my wife is still with me eg, I’ll make a big pot of soup/chilli con carne etc and freeze into individual potions. My favourite food is Thai and have been to a few Thai cooking classes over the years, but frustratingly I still can’t recreate that amazing taste at home.
I created a dish when I first started running called Marathon Pie because it’s what I always have the day before a marathon if I’m not travelling and it’s very easy to make….the ingredients are carrots, leeks, chick peas, brown lentils, onions, parsnips, 3 bay leaves…the vegetable stock includes marmite and Worcester sauce. The mash on top is a mixture of white and sweet potatoes.
Marathon Pie = Moose Mug. 😎
My favourite food is Thai and have been to a few Thai cooking classes over the years, but frustratingly I still can’t recreate that amazing taste at home.
DW & I love Thai food, but have given up trying to make it at home. I think you need to feel the spices, and a Westerner can’t quite pull it off. Same for us with Indian.
Dave
Wcrunner - I did go on on boys trip last weekend and then was pretty fatigued for every run early in the week. And Wednesday was a workout in freezing wind and sleet so I’d say it all contributed.
Mikkey - I want some Moose Mug Pie! I targeted this park run because some friends from Wellington are down who are avid park runners. I’d have to switch things round to go in the next few weeks but it’s not the end of the world, just frustrating it keeps happening. I had a rough night so I’m still in bed while my friends have gone to do it. The park run just posted that the course is still under water so they’re having to change it up so maybe it’s just as well….
Flavio - the cold weather isn’t helping for sure but I’d had a really good run of never getting sick until I got Covid in March last year. The silly lockdowns may have reduced my immunity along with the thing that shouldn’t be mentioned.
Pain is my friend
Ok ok. let me revise my statment. Magnesium and potassiun aren't fillers. Some of them put stuff in like black licotice, vitamin B or D, Boron, niacine....You need the basics. Hammer does well.
ATY 24 141.445 2019 1st
Bear 100 22:08 2021
Jackpot 100 Feb 14:59 - 5th
Pulse endurance 48 hr 175.3 miles
Bonnevile Backyard ultra
Ute 100 Aug
24 hour loop race?
Damn- Mikkey's getting serious here...Hope someone let Cal know that the training just went up a notch
I would also like a slice of the Moose Mug pie at some point. Mine will need some Chicken however as I'm an omnivore.
5K 18:36 (2023), 10K 39:40 (2022), 1/2 1:24:37 (2023), full 2:58:36 (2015)
Pretty disappointing week, started getting a tickle in my throat on Thursday and by Saturday morning was pretty rough. Decided on Friday night not to race and during Saturday decided not to run at all. Same for today, hopefully I can have a shake out tomorrow and get back to normal during the week and start thinking about the 10km in 3 weeks.
Mikkey - Wait a minute, where's the meat on that pie?
Steve - If your theory is right then you got some very bad luck. After catching *The Thing* I went a whole year without catching a cold.I remember a few years ago I was getting sick quite often and only recently I have uncovered most of the mystery.First I found out that I have consistent heart burn due to hiatus hernia. It's mild enough that I don't notice it, but it's there always causing a slight sore throat.Then I found out this year that my Vitamin D levels were cratering.That should not be a surprise considering how much I hate the sun rays, but lack of Vit D causes a weaker immune system, and also it's a very good explanation to why I feel considerably more sore after exercise than most people.I still have another running theory, one that is harder to prove: That after so many years of gluttony (or maybe due to genetics) I have developed some light permanent damage to my small intestines. Over the past 2 to 3 years I have started being unable to handle certain spices. And the intestines are known as your second brain, they have a huge influence on your immune system function and your mood.
me - I'm quite happy with this week. It was very hard.
Tuesday we're traveling to Brazil to visit family. It's been a year and a half, way too much time, considering I can probably count on my fingers how many times I'll see my parents.
The funny thing is that these electrolyte supplements advertise 50mg of potassium but an average banana has 400mg of potassium. I normally eat 2 bananas a day.