Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2020 (Read 618 times)

SteveChCh


Hot Weather Complainer

    Nice weeks all.

     

    JamesD - Good luck with hamstring and hernia.

     

    Watson - Ouch!  That sounds nasty.  Hopefully not worse than bruising and I agree with piwi - glad it's not a leg injury so hopefully you won't be off your feet too long.  Keep us updated.

     

    Welcome Josh!

     

    piwi - I get that on rare occasions on a normal day but a lot in the hour after a hard run.

     

    me - Another solid week but hit the wall a bit on my long run.  Very warm morning but I felt a bit off right from the start.  I was hoping to do 6km tempo but bailed out at 3km.  I probably could have tried to finish it but I would have had a speed fade and suffered a lot so with darkwave's words ringing in my head I decided I was better to live to fight another day.  I may need a lighter week this week - luckily I have a session with the coach tomorrow.

     

    Weekly for period: From: 19/10/2020 To 25/10/2020

    Date Name Distance
    in km
    Duration Avg Pace
    per km
    Elevation Gain
    in m
    19/10/2020 Warm up 0.46 00:02:44 05:57 0
    19/10/2020 70 mins easy pace 14.74 01:10:09 04:46 27
    21/10/2020 Warm up 0.52 00:03:04 05:54 0
    21/10/2020 16km incl. 10 x (2 mins @ 4:00/km, 1 min recovery) 16.00 01:13:57 04:37 14
    22/10/2020 70 mins recovery pace 13.48 01:11:57 05:20 16
    24/10/2020 Warm up 0.46 00:03:03 06:38 0
    24/10/2020 24km incl. 3km @ 4:20/km 24.07 01:55:31 04:48 22
    25/10/2020 Recovery jog 8.13 00:45:19 05:34 6

    Total distance: 77.87km

    5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

     

    2024 Races:

    Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

    Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34

    Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

    Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

      Steve i was similar on my long-run yesterday. My heart rate was already high after 10kms. I was hitting 160 to 170 which is my 5k 10k type readings. Alot warmer than im used to. Hoping my 3 races coming up aren't too hot but this weekends one starts at 10am.

      55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

      " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

      Somewhere in between is about right "      

       

      Marky_Mark_17


        Watson - oh no!  Hope it's nothing too serious.  I took a tumble a few months ago and that scared the crap out of me although I fortunately only ended up with a couple of minor scrapes to show for it.

         

        Steve- nice week, it's been noticeably warmer up here too.  Forecast looking fairly warm for the Auckland Marathon / Half next weekend so kind of relieved I'm not running it.

         

        Flavio - 830m laps?  Is it around a park or something like that?

         

        Darkwave- I hear you on the rebuild!  I'm normally about a week to be fully recovered from a half, so I guess I should expect a marathon to be well over 2 weeks before I'm recovered and ready to train normally again.

         

        Zebano - 4 social runs in one week haha that would do my head in.

         

        James - hope it's not a hernia.  I think JMac may have had an experience with a sports hernia?

         

        Me - easy recovery run today brought me back to earth with a thump as the body still isn't there yet.  I'll see how I'm feeling and make a final call tomorrow but I've yo-yo'ed back towards not running Road Champs, got some random soreness in my right quad and my right PF is a bit niggly too.  I pushed it too hard coming out of my last marathon and ended up having a couple of fairly average months with ITB issues as a consequence.  Plus it looks like being a bit of a non-event, there are only 8 (!!) entrants in the M35-49 so far with a week until entries close - aside from the fact it's in the middle of the day and could be very hot if recent weather is anything to go by.

        3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

        10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

        * Net downhill course

        Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

        Up next: Runway5, 4 May

        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

        Marky_Mark_17


          Also Piwi / Steve- I've noticed a higher HR on my easier runs too as the weather has warmed up.

           

          Piwi - that Mt. Half / 10km at the end of November will almost certainly be warm.  Omaha Half is normally around that time of year and it's always been hot and occasionally humid.

          3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

          10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

          * Net downhill course

          Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

          Up next: Runway5, 4 May

          "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

          watsonc123


            You certainly would not have wanted a serious injury six months into your marathon "cycle".

             

            I am not surprised NZ Road Champs has a low turn out. The delays and uncertainty plus a middle of the day race would mean few would travel.  Plus being a week after Auckland marathon.

             

            Just had x-rays, waiting results.

            PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

             

            40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

             

            2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

             

            2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

            JamesD


            JamesD

              Watson - Ouch!  Hope the X-rays are negative and you just have really bad bruises.

               

              Piwi - I get dizzy after standing up quite often, and it seems to have gotten more frequent over the last several days.  Maybe two or three times a day.

              Post-1987 PRs:  Half 1:30:14 (2019); 10K 39:35 (2019); 5K 19:12 (2017); Mile 5:37.3 (2020)

              '24 Goals: consistency, age-graded PRs, half < 1:32

              watsonc123


                Shoulder is a rotator cuff injury.

                 

                Elbow might be a small fracture of the radius.  I will see the fracture clinic another day.

                 

                In a sling now.

                PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                 

                40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                 

                2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                 

                2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                Marky_Mark_17


                  That sucks Watson.

                   

                  It's probably small consolation but I know two people who've slipped over during runs and broken their collarbones (one on the footpath and one on trail).

                   

                  All the best for a speedy recovery.

                  3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                  10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                  * Net downhill course

                  Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                  Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                  "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                  watsonc123


                    That is a REALLY small consolation

                     

                    Thanks everyone for your concern.

                    PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                     

                    40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                     

                    2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                     

                    2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                    flavio80


                    Intl. correspondent

                      James - Sorry to hear that, hopefully it will be over soon regardless of what you have.

                       

                      Watson - Ugh, so sorry to hear. I had a couple of falls a few years back and they sucked, though they weren’t as hard as yours.

                      It must have been incredibly fast that you didn’t have time to instantly put your hands in front.

                       

                      Piwi - that happens sometimes, it’s like it blacks out for a bit and I have to scratch my eyes and wait a couple of seconds.

                       

                      Mark - yeah, 830m roughly, see this map.

                       

                      me - And my race has been cancelled after the new decree from the federal government banning ALL races except those at the national level. Since this was a regional championship it got axed 

                      It's a shame, I was really hoping to use all those rabbits to pull me for a sub 18.

                      That said, the race was going to be run on a public non walled square, on a measured course (JMAC approved ® ) and we can no longer cancel the hotel, so we'll run it anyway, unless they ban city to city travel, in which case we'll run it here in Bologna anyway, unless they ban running outside, in which case we'll run it anyway, at 4am when there's nobody looking, unless they barricade the building and put soldiers outside with AK 47s, in which case we'll run it anyway, doing 60m laps around the building.

                      PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

                      Up next: some 800m race (or time trials) / Also place in the top 20% in a trail race

                      Tool to generate Strava weekly

                      zebano


                        James & Watson, condolences, I hope these pass quickly.

                         

                        Mark - Skipping is probably the right call, but ouch there just aren't many races right now.

                         

                        Flavio - good luck with the time trial!

                        1600 - 5:23 (2018), 5k - 19:33 (2018), 10k - 41:20 (2021), half - 1:38:57 (2018), Marathon - 3:37:17 (2018)

                          Watson good luck on the recovery.

                           

                          Flavio man that sucks!

                          We will definitely let you have some extra time back for a time trial.

                          55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                          " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                          Somewhere in between is about right "      

                           

                          watsonc123


                            Zebano - New Zealand has had less cancellations than most places.

                             

                            Flavio - I hit hard.  I was also looking at my watch, I think, as it started making me a worse position. I did partially get my hands out as I did get cuts on my hand.  Sorry about your race.

                            PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                             

                            40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                             

                            2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                             

                            2024 PRs: 5km 20:25

                            zebano


                              Zebano - New Zealand has had less cancellations than most places.

                               

                              Flavio - I hit hard.  I was also looking at my watch, I think, as it started making me a worse position. I did partially get my hands out as I did get cuts on my hand.  Sorry about your race.

                               

                              Watson, what's the diagnosis on recovery? Can you jog or not at all until it heals?

                              1600 - 5:23 (2018), 5k - 19:33 (2018), 10k - 41:20 (2021), half - 1:38:57 (2018), Marathon - 3:37:17 (2018)

                              watsonc123


                                No jogging for a while.  I will need to see Fracture Clinic and Physio first.  I am thinking 3 to 6 weeks before I run again.

                                PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                                 

                                40+ PRs: 5km 19:31 (Oct 2020), 10km 39:59 (Sep 2020), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018), full 3:13:55 (Sep 2022)

                                 

                                2023 PRs (hope to beat in 2024): 5km 20:34, 10km 41:37, half 1:32:32, full 3:21:05

                                 

                                2024 PRs: 5km 20:25