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2nd Marathon (Read 64 times)

Hughrunner


    Hi, I am a first time poster looking for nothing more than tips and advice.

    Before I continue, I am not looking to be judged - I will be honest about my situation for the context of the advice.

     

    I have always been drastically unhealthy.

    Being healthy never had appeal - I almost didn't get it.

    From 15 years old my DAILY diet looked like this;

    3-4 Cans of coke

    Take away for every meal; Pizza, burgers, fast food (nothing healthy)

    30-40 cigarettes a day

     

    Despite this, I never put on weight and always remained kind of fit.

    I also was pretty accomplished across sport, work, etc.

     

    I would describe myself as good at the BIG things, not the small things (even though I realise they aren't small).

    In 2015, I wanted to quit smoking so I decided to train for a marathon while doing so.

    I had quit once for a few months but fell back in.

     

    I downloaded a training guide from Mens Health and went for it.

    I did pretty much every run in the three month program but I didn't quit smoking, I drank cokes & my diet didn't change much except for before the big runs...

    I ended up running the Marathon in just over 3hrs & 15minutes which I was pleased with and that people I knew couldn't believe.

    That was 2015, I was 26 & I haven't trained much since.

     

    I am now 29, I have not drank a soft drink this year, I'm cooking every meal I have at home & I'm trying to quit smoking.

    I am also training on an exercise bike, doing sprints, 50x sit-ups & 50x push ups every morning.

     

    The reason I come to this forum is there is a Marathon on six months from now so I think it's a good goal with my health regime.

    I want to be fully fit and healthy three months out this time, do a proper diet four/five months out, cross train, get a running coach, etc and see if I can now knock it out of the park and run say 2.45

     

    Would love your tips/thoughts?

    Hughrunner


      Essentially,

      I'm looking to do everything right this time - six months out.

        Progress, not Perfection!

        300m- 37 sec.

        ZZCaptainObvious


          As long as you're looking at a solid marathon training plan, I think you'll be in a good spot for marathon number 2. 2:45:00 is quick - I'd recommend at least some runs at that pace weekly, just to get acclimated to the feeling of sub 6:20 miles. The jump from 3:15 to 2:45 is a pretty big one, but it's not impossible.

           

          I'll also chip in a plug for the sub 3 thread - they're going to have a lot of reasonable advice and camaraderie.

            I want to be as respectful as I possibly can but if you were to contact me to employ me as your coach, I would not take you on because of the smoking problem.

             

            If you are looking for a legitimate coach you will not find one of they are ok with this life choice.  What you are working towards together is being sabotaged on a daily basis.

             

            Sorry of this sounds harsh but you need someone to be honest with you if you really want help.

             

            I wish you luck.

            tom1961


            Old , Ugly and slow

              Some of the best runners have been champions on a junk food diet. Bill Rogers one of the best examples.

              but none have been smokers

              first race sept 1977 last race sept 2007

               

              2019  goals   1000  miles  , 190 pounds , deadlift 400 touch my toes

              darkwave


              Mother of Cats

                My thoughts:

                 

                1) there is a HUGE gap between a 3:15 marathon and a 2:45.  While a 3:15 off of basically non-existent training indicates talent, it's still a big jump to 2:45 in one round.

                 

                2) I think that for you, right now, your money is best spent not on an on-line coach, but on the purchase of 2 books - Jack Daniels' Running Formula, and Pfitzinger's Advanced Marathoning.  Read Daniels to understand the theory behind proper training, and then follow one of the plans in Pfitzinger.

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