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5K: 16:37 (11/20) | 10K: 34:49 (10/19) | HM: 1:14:57 (5/22) | FM: 2:36:31 (12/19)
I think it might be time for all of us to take a deep breath and realize how absurdly fast a sub 2:30 marathon is.
Well we'll never get credit for it being fast because Cal has already run that time
Back to normal training talk...
Weather - I'm not a fan of doing doubles, so I'm glad to hear that you do it mainly with singles. I was concerned about pushing my easy runs longer than 10 miles. I always felt like I wanted to limit easy runs to that amount, mainly because it got me up to around 1:20 in time during the summer and I felt pushing 90 minutes in a run (which 12 miles would be) would start turning my easy days into MLR days. I know I can't do it ALL in singles, but I was thinking of maybe upping my easy run to 11 or 12 as you stated and then filling in the rest with doubles. I also like the idea of only running 6 days a week, so I may need to do more doubles than you did. I'd rather run twice some days than be forced to run every single day, which can be difficult with my schedule.
Ha... I mean - that reminds me my 13 years old daughter - when she is out of arguments she usually ends with - "oh, I was just joking / trolling...". American way to avoid any discussion involving different points of view. I forgot where I live now...
If you feel like you've gotten the better side of this argument (to the extent it was an argument to get a better side of instead of just expressing our views on a subject that has no real right or wrong side), great. Regarding the trolling part, my point was that in no way have I gotten upset or offended by ANY of this. I actually have for the first time in a long time been entertained by participating in this forum. And I have you to thank for that. Specifically, how easy it is to get you all riled up.
All joking aside, I really have enjoyed your return. I've often thought that if Cal can get himself back in shape, I need to stop my whining, finally get over this injury, and go for a real marathon PR! Hopefully I stick to that.
Upcoming races: Boston
The same feeling actually. Maybe I just try and manage sharing time between getting better in my skills as a professional and training more or less seriously (I have some, probably temporary, approval on training from my wife - she saw how I was getting fat on a daily basis and wants to see me in shape ) Yeah, this kind of discussion fires me up to some degree - it really hurts that you, millennials, have doubts I could run sub 2:30 marathon when I was 31 yo.
paces PRs - 5K - 5:48 / 10K - 6:05 / HM - 6:14 / FM - 6:26 per mile
This conversation wouldn't have been complete without a complaint regarding Millennials. Well done capping it off
I hope the situation with fires up north somehow resolves - not to mention 28 people are dead and 3000 structures are gone, the air quality is close to disastrous for much of the bay - 192 out of 250 at my place. it's 220 in Sacramento. I wonder if the upper level 250 means people are going to die? Just drove on i-680 - the visibility is certainly less than a mile. At this point it's unhealthy not only run but just to be outside. I hope rains that supposed to come mid next week will help - but this area is famous for rains not showing up even despite the forecast. Did I mention CIM will be certainly cancelled if this continues or even slightly improves.
Cancelling CIM would be crazy (not that they would cancel, just the whole situation).
I just put on my pair of Vaporfly. My god, these are unlike any other shoe I’ve tried on. I won’t be able to fully comment until I try them out in a race, but these make me feel like the Hypserspeeds I’ve run every marathon in are the equivalent to running barefoot. This feels like you’re running on a trampoline.
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Cancelling a marathon isn't that crazy. Remember, they cancelled NYCM in 2012 after Sandy. What's happening in California right now IS crazy. I'd feel bad for the people who trained and were in shape for CIM, but not nearly as bad as those who lost their homes.
FWIW, I use AG% for only self-comparison. For the most part, I'm still getting faster and can improve at every distance longer than the 2 mile, so for now I still like to strive to improve my PRs. I can't ever imagine thinking that my time at whatever age is better than someone else's who ran 20 minutes faster than me regardless of their age. Nor could I imagine "extrapolating" times that I "could" have run in the past...but didn't. "Congestion Guy" who got 2nd in the masters on Sunday was a year older than me and I beat him by 36 seconds, all over the last 10k. He has a higher AG% from that race than me. Really, 1 year makes that much of a difference? No, it doesn't work that way. That's why races don't actually give awards based on it. It's just to make (us) old dudes feel like it's still worth it to run.
5k: 17:52 (2014); 10k 36:59 (2014); 15k: 56:29 (2018); Half: 1:19:27* (2018); Full: 2:54:22 (2018)
*downhill AF
Steve — I’m late to chime in, but I loved your RR, and I’m glad you beat congestion guy.
My friend ran Harrisburg with you and Sling, finishing between you two in 2:57:46. He’s 60, which makes it quite amazing, to me at least. AG% is way up there, probably. He passed his own son in the last mile. He’s been a runner a long time; this recent result is one of his best ever going back 17 years or more. I don’t think he would make any claims about how fast he could’ve been back then — he’s just as fast now.
I was in a marathon that was canceled a few years ago while we stood at the starting line — due to tornadoes that were forecast, but never materialized. Heartbreaking, but probably the right call at the time.
THANKS Subdood! That 60 year old ran with (and beat) his 28 yo son I believe.
Yes, that’s the guy. Follows the Hansons’ plan — no long runs over 16 miles, maybe 60 mpw max. Nicest guy in the world.
I hate him already.
Andres - how long did it take your metatarsalgia to heal? It's been 3 weeks now and it's not really getting better, I was wondering if I need to see a doctor to get something like a cortisone shot, or if I should expect this just to take a long time to heal up.
Yeah, well I’ve had that stupid Earth, Wind and Fire song stuck in my head all week. So thanks for that!