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Good Bad & The Monkey
So you're saying that calorimetry doesn't work? If so, you're at odds with about 99% of exercise scientists. O2 consumption is really the only way anyone measures energy expenditure.
I'm running somewhere tomorrow. It's going to be beautiful. I can't wait.
Poor baby
What the hell is cardio?
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You misunderstand. Calorimetry measures oxygen in and CO2 out. You need CO2 production rates to determine calorie burn rates. Running economy only looks at oxygen inspiration rates. A lot can happen between the airway and the metabolizing cell.
Why is it sideways?
Not sure how to address this, but I would suspect that it has to do with running in place being classified as a different activity. Hmmm.
excessively nitpicky
I certainly get you if you're saying that respiration rate has poor correlation to energy use. That's pretty basic. If that's what you're saying then you're not being clear (at least to me.)
A Saucy Wench
I have become Death, the destroyer of electronic gadgets
"When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasnt tired and kept running anyway" - dd, age 7
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And yes, I was being vague, although not misleading. I was simply not offering up my whole pie. At least not at once.
I agree with Hippo.
One day at a time
(for the record, the size of Milton Berle's "pie" and various stories are apocryphal))
I thought for sure someone would start talking about an Ostrich soon. I didn't see the Hippo comming. Which apparently is common because I love to throw out the random tidbit that more people are killed by Hippos than any large animal. I am not sure I'm right about that but I think I heard it somewhere at it sounds good enough to me. You do have to say something to distinguish animals though since mosquitos kill more poeple than all 4-legged creatures put together.
Her Beautiful Mind Interview by DEBORAH SOLOMON As a British psychoanalyst known for your social activism and literary output, you argue in your new book, “Bodies,” that all of the globalized world — men and women alike — is suffering from a warped sense of beauty. What I am seeing is franticness about having to get a body. I wish we could treat our bodies as the place we live from, rather than regard it as a place to be worked on, as though it were a disagreeable old kitchen in need of renovation and update. “Body hatred,” as you call it, has become a leading Western export. Young women in South Korea are undergoing surgery to Westernize the appearance of their eyelids. It’s supported by their parents. They don’t experience this as a terrible thing, that they’re being passive victims and idiots. They see it as a chance at modernity. Fiji is the country where 11.3 percent of girls were bent over the toilet bowl three years after television was introduced. Do you believe there is actually a direct connection between watching a show like “Gossip Girl” and developing bulimia? Yes, the girls were trying to remake their bodies in the shape of skinny Western bodies. In general, the Western body has become a global brand. You’ve publicly expressed an interest in suing Weight Watchers. Yes. Fifi, which is what I call my book “Fat Is a Feminist Issue,” was in part a plea to give up dieting and learn to recognize hunger and appetite and respond to them. Dieting, I argued, caused compulsive eating and destabilizes our relationship to food. In what way? If you continually diet, you are putting your body in a quasi-famine situation. It slows your metabolism down and breaks the thermostat. Diets don’t work. They don’t help you understand why you’re eating more than your body wanted in the first place. You reportedly treated Princess Diana for bulimia, which you have never acknowledged publicly. Look, here’s the position of the shrink. The surgeon says, “The operation was a success.” The shrink cannot say that so-and-so was my patient. Can you say that so-and-so was not your patient? What about, say, Arnold Schwarzenegger? I don’t know if we’ve been confronted with that at our ethics committee. I am not convinced that women today are more body-obsessed than their predecessors. Wasn’t Cleopatra beanpole-thin and bedecked in eyeliner? Maybe a few people around her in her palace imitated her style. But it wasn’t a requirement to feel comfortable as a woman. Yes, she lived in the days before cosmetic companies ruled. Now we’re all invited to believe that we can be beautiful, but accompanying that is that we must be preoccupied with how we look from the age of 6 to the age of 75. We’re expected to look like Angelina Jolie from childhood to the old-age home. How much do you weigh? I have absolutely no idea. The last time I was weighed was a few weeks after I had my second child, Lianna, in 1988. I hear you recently separated from your longtime psychotherapist husband. Yes. I had 30-plus years of a really lovely relationship. How did it end? I’d rather not say. I am a shrink, so it’s not really in the public realm. Fair enough, but can you tell us if he left for someone impossibly thin? Ha. Do you believe that men are biologically inclined to favor unwrinkled flesh? Actually, I don’t buy that myth. I think most men crave intimacy, connection and interest, and one of the painful aspects of life today is that women are encouraged to turn to quite dramatic cosmetic procedures in the face of loss. I trust you won’t succumb to cosmetic surgery. No. I’ve become accustomed to the way I look. I look my age, which is 62. If I were afraid of wrinkles, I’d probably be hiding in a cupboard, because I have a lot of them. INTERVIEW CONDUCTED, CONDENSED AND EDITED BY DEBORAH SOLOMON
Regarding the Ryun/Shorter comparison it doesn't seem all that surprising that a world class miler had a higher VO2max than a world class marathoner. I mean despite the fact that there's a poor correlation between VO2max and race times, this seems to be almost exactly what you'd expect.