Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2018 (Read 704 times)

Marky_Mark_17


    JMac - I'd love to do Boston some day but it won't be next year.  Budget definitely won't stretch that far having just bought a house (plus I have a half marathon series title to defend!).

     

    Keen - hope you're feeling better.

     

    Me - realised I never posted my weekly for last week.  Taper was pretty much bang on, I think.

     

    M: weights

    T: 10km with a few short efforts

    W: 10.8km easy

    Th: 8.2km incl 4 x 500m efforts

    F: rest day

    S: 7.4km incl. 6 x 45 sec hard effort / 3 min easy

    S: 22km incl. Dunedin Half Marathon

    Total: 58.3km

    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

    * Net downhill course

    Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

    Up next: Runway5, 4 May

    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

      Keen still a solid week even with the issues hope you get to feeling better.

      The HM is Oct 27th my goal marathon is Dec 8th so 6 weeks out from the HM.

      PR's

      1m  5:38 (2018)

      5k    19:59 (2019)

      HM  1:33:56 (2018)

      FM  3:23:07 (2018)

        Piwi - I saw that missed encounter on Strava, that's too bad. Remember when you were running 50-60 MPW every week earlier this year? What happened to that man?

         

        MJ - Always up for a beer or a run. If you come before my marathon, it'll be a run. If you come in November or December, it'll definitely be a beer 

         

        Marco/Corey - Nice weeks.

         

        Flavio/Rune - Nice that you guys got to meet up. Flavio, you're going to need a nice raise if you want to afford the bay area, that place is nuts now.

         

        Jmac my fire has been slowly extinguishing since 2015. High mileage and chasing PBs has a finite time limit and deep down I dont feel its fun or healthy for me anymore. I still enjoy running for fitness. Maybe I will crank it up again one day. 30 mpw is really enjoyable with no workout pressures thrown in.

        Enjoy it while you are still keen though its very satisfying getting faster.

        55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

        " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

        Somewhere in between is about right "      

         

        JMac11


        RIP Milkman

           

          Jmac my fire has been slowly extinguishing since 2015. High mileage and chasing PBs has a finite time limit and deep down I dont feel its fun or healthy for me anymore. I still enjoy running for fitness. Maybe I will crank it up again one day. 30 mpw is really enjoyable with no workout pressures thrown in.

          Enjoy it while you are still keen though its very satisfying getting faster.

           

          Yeah I hear you. I can honestly see that I may shift focus after Boston next year. I certainly have some more PRs to grab, but after that, once the ability to get them dies down I may move into other activiities. I can’t see myself putting up 2K miles a year after 2019. But for now, I’ll keep focusing on getting those PRs.

           

          Certainly glad that you’re sticking around even though the fire is dying down. This board wouldn’t be the same without your banter 

          5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

           

           

          Marky_Mark_17


             

            Yeah I hear you. I can honestly see that I may shift focus after Boston next year. I certainly have some more PRs to grab, but after that, once the ability to get them dies down I may move into other activiities. I can’t see myself putting up 2K miles a year after 2019. But for now, I’ll keep focusing on getting those PRs.

             

            Certainly glad that you’re sticking around even though the fire is dying down. This board wouldn’t be the same without your banter 

             

            Yeah, I can see how that could happen.  The PB thing can be pretty all-consuming and I've had to snap myself out of that at times too.

             

            When I reflect on the reasons I enjoy running, they include:

            • It's fun
            • It's the best way I've found to clear my head, other than snowboarding (which isn't an option 98% of the time!)
            • Setting PBs
            • Testing myself over different distances (I reckon the HM is my favourite, though)
            • Good way to explore new places
            • Checking out new races and events
            • Race day atmosphere and competition
            • Camaraderie with other athletes (in person and online!)
            • The satisfaction of a race well-run, or learning how you could improve for the next one
            • Good discussion topic at work (there are lots of runners there!)

            I know I will hit the PB wall at some time in the not-too-distant future, although my 5km and FM times have definitely got improvement in them.  But, irrespective of that, there's still a lot of things I'd like to do, like one of the big half marathons in Australia (e.g. Melbourne), a major marathon and/or Boston, as well as just checking out new races and events.  I figure this gives me at least a few years more and who knows, by that stage my daughter might be into running (or something else entirely - but I'd still love to do some events with her).  Also I still don't have an 80th percentile age-graded result which would be nice, although my 10km time is exceptionally close (79.7%).

             

            Anyway I think we all agree we need Piwi here for the banter even if he's not posting big miles!

            3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

            10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

            * Net downhill course

            Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

            Up next: Runway5, 4 May

            "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

              Thanks guys I appreciate it sorry to be a downer  .

              Running is great fun and in my down times Im so glad I have kept a base 20-30 mpw. I went pretty full on from when I started in 2010 to 2015 and I dragged the family along to events, my then 13 year old would run and sometimes even the other 3 would do the 1 mile event. They are grumpy teenagers now though and have no interest in running so Ive only been doing local stuff the last few years to keep price down and time away from family.

              55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

              " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

              Somewhere in between is about right "      

               

              JMac11


              RIP Milkman

                Ha it's not being a downer, I'm talking about quitting in a couple of years. I'm such an internally competitive person that I imagine I will struggle with not being able to hit PRs. I guess there are always Masters PRs to hit, or Moose Mugs, but otherwise I will find it challenging. I also think that the level of running we do, especially marathon training, isn't exactly healthy. Piwi, your level of running is probably right, just going out there every once in a while for 45-60 minutes while also balancing with other activities, especially ones that are strength based.

                 

                In happier news, I'll be signing up for Boston tomorrow. The turnaround between NYC and Boston is only 5 months, so it's going to be a short break. I've never trained for a marathon in the dead of winter, so I'm a little curious how that will go.

                5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                 

                 

                CommanderKeen


                Cobra Commander Keen

                  Mark - I'm about 97.5% back, just a bit of lingering congestion, mostly overnight.
                  "Nigel No-Mates" is pretty darn amusing. I may have to use that in the future.
                  If you want to try for Botswana in 2020 I'm aiming to be there, along with a couple others from the sub-3:20 thread.
                  It looks like you have a ton of solid reasons to keep things up - I'm particularly jealous that you work with a bunch of runners.

                   

                  CFarr - 6 weeks out is plenty of time to recover if you want to race that half and use it as a predictor.


                  Piwi - Certainly glad you're going to be sticking around, regardless of mileage. I certainly hear you about mileage and workouts taking their toll.


                  JMac - In my experience, training through the winter is much more enjoyable than training through summer. Of course the downside is that you may be training in temps 40 and under then wind up with 60+ on race day (case in point, OKC Memorial this past spring).


                  My house is currently in a bit of an atmospheric oddity - I'm on the edge of a cloud. To the west I can see at most 50-75 meters through the fog, but I have clear skies immediately to the east.

                  5k: 17:58 11/22 │ 10k: 37:55 9/21 │ HM: 1:23:22 4/22 │ M: 2:56:05 12/22

                   

                  Upcoming Races:

                   

                  OKC Memorial 5k - April 27

                  Bun Run 5k - May 4

                   

                  SteveChCh


                  Hot Weather Complainer

                    This is a really interesting topic.  I've often wondered what I'll do when I notice I'm getting slower.  At the moment I'm still hovering around PB shape but at 41 and with a few niggles creeping in, I can see it's not far away.  I see a lot of older guys who still run good times who must have been really quick back in their day, so I might have to chat with them.  Everyone must deal with it at some stage, so there must be a way to adjust.

                     

                    I started in 2001 and first broke 90 in 2004 but then focused on football and got a serious knee injury so from 2009-2014 I was running with no realistic goal of getting close to a PB again and I did still enjoy it.  Maybe I knew I still had it in me if I stayed injury free and that kept me going.

                    5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

                     

                    2024 Races:

                    Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024 1:29:55

                    Christchurch Half-Marathon April 21, 2024 1:27:34

                    Selwyn Marathon June 2, 2024

                    Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

                    JMac11


                    RIP Milkman

                      Keen - I like training in the winter, but I've never done anything north of 40 MPW. Also, remember that NYC generally gets into the teens and 20's in the winter so it's pretty brutal getting out there. I do think training in the 40s and 50s though will be amazing. I just don't know how you do speed work when it's 20 degrees out and you're bundled up so much you can barely move your legs beyond easy pace.

                      5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                       

                       

                      Marky_Mark_17


                        Keen - I like training in the winter, but I've never done anything north of 40 MPW. Also, remember that NYC generally gets into the teens and 20's in the winter so it's pretty brutal getting out there. I do think training in the 40s and 50s though will be amazing. I just don't know how you do speed work when it's 20 degrees out and you're bundled up so much you can barely move your legs beyond easy pace.

                         

                        Yeah, for me when it gets really cold, it's also harder work just to turn the legs over (regardless of how much I'm wearing!).  Snowy and icy footpaths are also not really ideal.

                        3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                        10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                        * Net downhill course

                        Last race: Waterfront HM, 7 Apr, 1:15:48

                        Up next: Runway5, 4 May

                        "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                          Keen that sounds freaky with the fog/clear skies. Your mileage is perfect for marathon running. If you are going to run a marathon train properly is my advice and you are a great example.

                           

                          Jmac you have some great race options on your doorstep with NYC and Boston. We have a mild climate here so winter is really nice and summer ok but you need to run early.

                           

                          Steve yeah I reckon if you strip any hobbie back to its basics then it reveals the best reasons for participating in that hobby. So for most of us running brings fitness, good mental health, travel, and meeting people.

                           

                          Mark Taupo half when i ran with you pretty well sums up cold weather running and muscles seizing up !

                          55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                          " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                          Somewhere in between is about right "      

                           

                            Piwi: the single fastest growing supplement in the US I believe is testosterone. Everyone is running an ad with some former football player saying they are taking it and back to their old fitness and energy levels (when they were juiced Smile ). You will most likely lose all your hair but us here on RA wont care Smile no more shampooing. Remember the ripped guy in his 50s racing in the UK? Thats what you are going to look like! Other than that: yes I can see how grumpy teenage kids can be a bit of a drag too Smile Not looking forward to that!!!

                             

                            Keen: I know that microclimate from the bayarea around SF and always thought how crazy it is. You arent anywhere close to the crazy windstorms? There was one that made landfall in the gulf of mexico and tracked north and the other one, francine, is making millions evacuate. Crazy nature. And you do a lot of treadmill miles in winter dont you?

                             

                            General: so Jmac and Keen are going to Boston 2019? Whats up with our 2018 hero Jaime? I see he ie back on the horse and slowly coming back? Rune if you kill it in Amsterdam, can you qualify still for Boston?

                            HM: 1:47 (9/20) I FM: 3:53:11 (9/23)

                             

                            2024 Goals: run a FM & HM + stay healthy!

                              Mick I have full head of graying hair  and the muscly 50 year old due who was ripped was as bald as an American Eagle 

                              55+ PBs 5k 18:36 June 3rd TT

                              " If you don't use it you lose it,  but if you use it, it wears out.

                              Somewhere in between is about right "      

                               

                                Hi,

                                just checking, I remember chatting on this forum with a guy from North Carolina (Charlotte I think). Hope everybody is safe in the US and Florence doesn't give you too many troubles.

                                I am flying to North Carolina (Raleigh Durham) on Sunday and I will spend the rest of the week there. Hopefully I will manage to run my taper in a safe environment... and will get back on time for the race on Sunday the 23rd (I am flying back on Saturday landing in Belfast at noon... )

                                 

                                stay safe in the US... all the best

                                Marco

                                 

                                PS. I had a bit of a downer my self the other day, I went out to do some intervals (5X1,200) I did my first 2 in 4:26 and 4:24 and I was feeling ok, but I had too many things going on in my head at work etc and I had to stop 400 meters in my third one... I was not in pain or anything, just was not there with my brain... I hope it's just a day... today I went for a 6 miles with 4 miles race pace and it went ok, so probably I will be ok in a couple of weeks time (I'd really like to get that sub90' in the HM, it's not Mark's pace but it would be my goal achieved for the year Smile

                                PRs since re-started in 2013:

                                5km: 19:43 (Belfast park run Sep-16) | 10km: 40:16 (Belfast Lagan side 10K Sep-18) 

                                HM: 1:30:09 (Belfast city Half Marathon, September-18) | FM: 3:25:05 (official chip time Belfast city Marathon, May-19, marathon was 0.3/4 longer, original time 3:27:20 for 26.5/6...)

                                 

                                Upcoming races:  

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