RunningAHEAD - Topic: handheld water bottles

Isaiah

posted: 9/3/2009 at 12:40 PM

The past several years on my longer runs, when it's warmer, I would carry an 8 or 12 oz off the shelf disposable water bottle. I keep them around so that I can refill them with gatorade before a run if I want. I used a Camelbak backpack this summer to do some trail running but found that even for two or three hours I could manage on less than a liter when the temperatures were below 70. I'm looking at buying some handheld water bottles with the straps for some big trail runs. Fuel belts don't really interest me because they bounce too much. I'm looking in the 15-25 oz range per bottle.

What do people recommend?

wanderlost

Get Lost :)

posted: 9/3/2009 at 12:57 PM

I have a Nathan Quickdraw Plus and an Ultimate Direction thingy. They both "work" fine.

milktruck

an amazing likeness

posted: 9/3/2009 at 1:06 PM

Isaiah -- I'll bet you'll find some helpful information for you about handheld water in this recent discussion thread:

If you carry a bottle, I have questions

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perfesserr

Imminent Catastrophe

posted: 9/4/2009 at 9:07 AM

Ultimate Direction bottles with the kicker valve work pretty well.

These are insulated and have a key pocket.

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RunsForCake

posted: 9/4/2009 at 12:42 PM

I really like the Amphipod model.

I also use the Amphipod belt for when I go longer and don't want to hold onto the bottle.

BoilerTom90

posted: 9/4/2009 at 1:29 PM

back in the 80's, I used to occasionally run with 1 lb hand weights that were endorsed by Craig Virgin (a great runner in his day). They were like weight lifting gloves with a 1/2 lb weight on the palm and another 1/2 lb on the back of the hand. The claim behind them is that you expended up to 5% more energy carrying these 1 lb weights in your hands while running. At the time, I was mainly running to lose weight for wrestling. They were also handy in smacking country dogs up side the head if they got too close, but I digress.

So, aren't any of you concerned that you're expending more energy swinging these 8-12 oz water bottles for miles upon miles? Even a 1 or 2% difference can really affect your marathon time.

I ask becuase I'm torn what to do for the marathon. I really want to carry my own water/drink, but I don't enjoy wearing fuel belt, and i don't want to carry a bottle. I'll probably end up wearing the fuel belt for the first 20 or so, then just suck it up from there.

azredbirds052

Maniac

posted: 9/4/2009 at 1:43 PM

Quote from BoilerTom90 on 9/4/2009 at 1:29 PM:

back in the 80's, I used to occasionally run with 1 lb hand weights that were endorsed by Craig Virgin (a great runner in his day). They were like weight lifting gloves with a 1/2 lb weight on the palm and another 1/2 lb on the back of the hand. The claim behind them is that you expended up to 5% more energy carrying these 1 lb weights in your hands while running. At the time, I was mainly running to lose weight for wrestling. They were also handy in smacking country dogs up side the head if they got too close, but I digress.

So, aren't any of you concerned that you're expending more energy swinging these 8-12 oz water bottles for miles upon miles? Even a 1 or 2% difference can really affect your marathon time.

I ask becuase I'm torn what to do for the marathon. I really want to carry my own water/drink, but I don't enjoy wearing fuel belt, and i don't want to carry a bottle. I'll probably end up wearing the fuel belt for the first 20 or so, then just suck it up from there.

What are you going to do with the fuel belt at that point?

I am curious, because I have a marathon (1st) in January. For my first half marathon, I wore the same belt (nathan) thing that I use in training. It works fine, but I really prefer running without it. For the next two half marathons I went without it and just used the aid stations...It worked fine.

I'm a little more concerned about a marathon, though. Where to put the gels, what if there aren't as many aid stations, etc., etc.

I have never used handhelds, so I don't have any input for the OP, but I did do the disposable water bottle thing for my first couple of runs....I didn't like that at all.

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Run 3 marathons (modified: Run 2 marathons--Lost Dutchman 02/2015 and Whiskey Row 05/2015)

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BoilerTom90

posted: 9/4/2009 at 1:49 PM

Quote from azredbirds052 on 9/4/2009 at 1:43 PM:

What are you going to do with the fuel belt at that point?

I hope to see my wife/son late in the race and will toss it to them. The other thing I had in mind is that a running friend said he'd pace me the last 10K or so. I was "hoping" he wouldn't mind wearing it. He'll be fresh and more tolerant of a fuel belt.

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Ileneforward

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posted: 9/4/2009 at 1:57 PM

I used to wear a camelbak around-the-waist water carrier. It holds 28 oz. and didn't joggle around at all. It isn't uncomfortable and hot like the backpack style. Plus sucking the water through the tube was something I could do while at a full run, unlike drinking from a bottle.

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NaderAlfie

posted: 9/4/2009 at 2:00 PM
modified: 9/4/2009 at 2:01 PM

Quote from BoilerTom90 on 9/4/2009 at 1:29 PM:

So, aren't any of you concerned that you're expending more energy swinging these 8-12 oz water bottles for miles upon miles? Even a 1 or 2% difference can really affect your marathon time.

I ask becuase I'm torn what to do for the marathon. I really want to carry my own water/drink, but I don't enjoy wearing fuel belt, and i don't want to carry a bottle. I'll probably end up wearing the fuel belt for the first 20 or so, then just suck it up from there.

On a few of my training runs I started with two 20oz bottles of sports drink. Their presence is felt. You would have to weigh this against the benefit of being able to hyrdate at your pleasure.

While I have never run with 8-12 oz, I do think you might reconsider 25oz. Also, you said "bottles," so you plan to carry 2 x 25 oz?

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Bonkin

posted: 9/4/2009 at 2:08 PM

Quote from BoilerTom90 on 9/4/2009 at 1:29 PM:

I ask becuase I'm torn what to do for the marathon. I really want to carry my own water/drink, but I don't enjoy wearing fuel belt, and i don't want to carry a bottle. I'll probably end up wearing the fuel belt for the first 20 or so, then just suck it up from there.

Maybe you could try this:

When it’s all said and done, will you have said more than you’ve done?

BoilerTom90

posted: 9/4/2009 at 2:12 PM

Quote from Bonkin on 9/4/2009 at 2:08 PM:

Maybe you could try this:

Well, that would be one way to ensure my wife and son were able to spot me in the masses that run Chicago.

The last time I ran the marathon, 1995, a guy in a cow costume was right beside me most of the way so that made it easy for her to "spot" me. The cow beat me. How utterly embarassing...

Bonkin

posted: 9/4/2009 at 2:18 PM

Quote from azredbirds052 on 9/4/2009 at 1:43 PM:

I'm a little more concerned about a marathon, though. Where to put the gels, what if there aren't as many aid stations, etc., etc.

I have never used handhelds, so I don't have any input for the OP, but I did do the disposable water bottle thing for my first couple of runs....I didn't like that at all.

Take a look at Race Ready shorts. They have plenty of room for gels, etc.

Also, a handheld bottle is great (for me). But it takes a good month or so of running with it before you start to forget it's there.

When it’s all said and done, will you have said more than you’ve done?

azredbirds052

Maniac

posted: 9/4/2009 at 2:24 PM

Quote from BoilerTom90 on 9/4/2009 at 2:12 PM:

Well, that would be one way to ensure my wife and son were able to spot me in the masses that run Chicago.

The last time I ran the marathon, 1995, a guy in a cow costume was right beside me most of the way so that made it easy for her to "spot" me. The cow beat me. How udderly embarassing...

fixed...Couldn't resist.

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Goals for 2015:

Run 3 marathons (modified: Run 2 marathons--Lost Dutchman 02/2015 and Whiskey Row 05/2015)

Run a 50-miler (Ran a 53.8 mile race 11/14/2015)

Run 1,500 miles (uhhh...how about 1,400?)

Stay healthy

labrat

posted: 9/4/2009 at 2:26 PM

Quote from BoilerTom90 on 9/4/2009 at 2:12 PM:

Well, that would be one way to ensure my wife and son were able to spot me in the masses that run Chicago.

The last time I ran the marathon, 1995, a guy in a cow costume was right beside me most of the way so that made it easy for her to "spot" me. The cow beat me. How utterly embarassing...

I wouldn't be too embarrassed. When provoked, some cows can reach speeds of up to 20mph.

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