Sub 1:30 Half Marathon in 2019 (Read 620 times)

    Mark I had a look at their facebook page and saw the comments. Good on you for sticking up for them. Wrong decision but a decision had to be made.

     

    Watson that's a shame on that Christchurch marathon.

    There will be alot of runners claiming faster times than they should. We are probably the minority that take it so seriously. Alot of Marshalls are volunteers or paid groups that have absolutely no interest or knowledge of running.

    So many running events too that quality of organising gets watered down.

    50+ PBs5k 18:29 Tauranga Parkrun May18   

    10k 38.55 oct 19 strava run

    " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

    Somewhere in between is about right "      

     

    Marky_Mark_17


      Watson - yeah I did see that go up not long after the event. At least they have fronted up for it. Don’t tell JMac.

       

      Piwi - For sure, if the race director thought there was a risk of further thunderstorms, then it was the right call to can the marathon given the off road parts of the course, the fact the race starts in the dark, and also having a marshall holding an umbrella at the top of North Head is not a good thing if there’s lightning around. It just turned out that the weather had cleared by race start so the organisers looked a bit silly. In the end they gave everyone free entry to next year’s marathon. They made the call for exactly the right reasons.

      5,000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 10,000m: 32:58 (Nov-19) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

      HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

      Last race: Kerikeri Half Marathon, 23 Nov, 1:10:46 (PB)

      Up next: Bays Night of 5's 5000m, 20 Dec

      "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

      watsonc123


        Ended up doing a small recovery run today.  So week re-posted including today.

         

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        Day Miles Pace Description Link
        Wed 1.5 9:06 Evening Run strava
        Thu 5.0 8:37 Evening Run - Incl. 2 x 200m Strides strava
        Sat 1.5 7:31 Warm up strava
        Sat 0.7 7:36 Warm up strava
        Sat 0.1 8:20 Warm up strava
        Sat 4.6 6:29 Trentham Harriers Road Race strava
        Sat 0.4 8:40 Cool down strava
        Sat 0.6 10:09 Cool down strava
        Sun 3.1 9:56 Afternoon Run strava
          17.5 8:12  

        PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

         

        40+ PRs: 5km 20:34 (Jan 2019), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

         

        2019 aims: Unlike 2017 & 2018, be consistent.  So get 40+ weeks of 40+ miles incl. two quality sessions (5 weeks achieved so far).

          quick post on my Week

          got in a few more miles than anticipated due to taking advantage of an extra run on the holiday, so I ended up with a bit more than 27miles

          for the week.

          I also got in a short ride on my "new to me bike" on Monday as well.

           

          Weekly Summary
          Monday, Sep 02, 2019 thru Sunday, Sep 08, 2019

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          Day Miles Pace Description Link
          Mon 4.5 3:42 Afternoon Ride strava
          Mon 4.4 8:20 Afternoon Run strava
          Tue 4.6 8:52 Morning Run strava
          Thu 6.0 8:45 Morning Run strava
          Sun 12.1 8:54 Morning Run strava
            31.6 8:03  

          PR's

          1m  5:38 (2018)

          5k    19:59 (2019)

          HM  1:33:56 (2018)

          FM  3:23:07 (2018)

          dpschumacher


            So I'm a week behind in my log...so here are two week summary...

             

            Monday morning run  (2 days after 1/2 marathon): 9.75 @ 7:23  Legs felt really dead.  It's not the day after....it's the day after the day after

            Tuesday morning run: 11.18 @7:02 surprisingly quick and legs felt really good.  Fell into some sub 7 min miles unintentionally and didn't realize until I saw my mile times.

            Wednesday night run: 8.18 @6:55 running with my track club.  Tried to keep slowing down but got sucked into keeping up.

            Thursday morning run: 11.2 @7:02

            Friday morning: 9 miles pretty quick @6:55, then went to the state fair for 6 hours....then found out my parents reserved the moving truck for Friday instead of Saturday by accident and was moving them out of their house until 3:30 in the morning

            Sat: Got up Saturday morning and then moved furniture within their new place for 8 hours....6 miles @ 7:28.....and I felt horrible.

             

            Total 61 miles and change

             

            THIS WEEK

            Monday: Labor day race. 1.8 warm up...Raced in a 36:29...4 mile cool down.  Again ended up much faster than expecting.  Setting a goal of 60:00 down from 65:00 for the Twin Cities 10 mile race.

            Tuesday: 9.1 recovery run

            Wednesday:  Decided to go long on a whim and was clipping a bunch of miles @ 6:45.  We got talked into running a 3 mile loop at the start which was through briers, sand, and a million fallen trees and ran it at 8:30 to 9 min pace...never again.  Slowed at the end as the guy I was running with (who is much much faster) was having stomach issues so there where a few....ahem...pit stops.

            Thursday:  Ran 8.3 @ 7:08 and was feeling the fast long run from Wed.

            Friday: Ran a 14 mile progression...pushed the last 5k with 6:33, 6:33, 6:13 the last 3 miles

            Saturday: Ran a basic 12 mile at 7:03 pace

            Sunday:  Had to finish moving my parents out of their house so I ran early in the morning, then helped them move, then went to work at my 2nd job.  So did 7 this morning and will to another 7 tonight af totter work.

             

            total 83.5 miles after my run tonight

             

            Have the 10 mile race in the beginning of October, so going to try to hammer some more miles and then afterwards we are going on vacation to Florida (10 year anniversary).  Then I go full on marathon training for Grandma's marathon 2020 (Late june)

            2019 Goal: Run every day

            2019 Goal: Get to 165 lbs

            2019 Goal: Get in shape to be able to run 2 marathons in 2020

            Marky_Mark_17


              DPS - nice week(s).  I'm considering another marathon in June next year so it could be cool if someone else on here is doing one at the same time.

               

              Corey- nice job winding the mileage back up.

               

              In other news, Nick Willis takes out an incredible photo finish to win his fifth 5th Ave Mile: https://youtu.be/_qjwttNkEvg

               

              As always a brilliant race tactician - the slow pace early on probably suited him but watch how he sits in the middle of the pack and then times his finish to perfection.

              5,000m: 16:03 (Dec-18) | 10,000m: 32:58 (Nov-19) | 10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) 

              HM: 1:10:46 (Nov-19) | FM: 2:57:36 (Oct-17)

              Last race: Kerikeri Half Marathon, 23 Nov, 1:10:46 (PB)

              Up next: Bays Night of 5's 5000m, 20 Dec

              "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

              watsonc123


                DPS - great week.

                PRs: 5km 18:43 (Dec 2015), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:26:16 (Sep 2016), full 3:09:28 (Jun 2015)

                 

                40+ PRs: 5km 20:34 (Jan 2019), 10km 40:28 (Aug 2019), half 1:29:39 (Jun 2018)

                 

                2019 aims: Unlike 2017 & 2018, be consistent.  So get 40+ weeks of 40+ miles incl. two quality sessions (5 weeks achieved so far).

                  Dps I can see some huge gains for you on already fast times.

                   

                  Mark and did you notice Julian Oakley. Susan Devoys son from Tauranga. I've seen him cruising around here. He ran 3.53.

                  50+ PBs5k 18:29 Tauranga Parkrun May18   

                  10k 38.55 oct 19 strava run

                  " If you don't use it you lose it but if you use it, it wears out.

                  Somewhere in between is about right "      

                   

                    Great week DPS!

                    I am a bit behind in my online life Wink This weekend it was the 12th anniversary, so I had to move around a bit my running schedule Wink

                     

                    After the 10 K last I was worried I didn't have in me much for the HM in 15 days... but my week went well: 50 miles, with a couple of 7 miles including 3 miles at HM pace (6'50) and 18 miles on Saturday with the last 4 at 6'50 . I also included a couple of hilly sessions in there.

                     

                    today I had an easy 4 miles and tomorrow I'll try my last interval training (5X1200) before the HM.

                    PRs since re-started in 2013:

                    5km: 19:43 (Belfast park run Sep-16) | 10km: 40:16 (Belfast Lagan side 10K Sep-18) 

                    HM: 1:30:09 (Belfast city Half Marathon, September-18) | FM: 3:25:05 (official chip time Belfast city Marathon, May-19, marathon was 0.3/4 longer, original time 3:27:20 for 26.5/6...)

                     

                    Upcoming races:  

                    10K Seeley cup 30Nov (Belfast) goal sub 40 again...might try a 5K park run

                      Dps 83 miles very nice week!

                      Marco nice week as well.

                      Mark that was a very well time sprint finish!

                      PR's

                      1m  5:38 (2018)

                      5k    19:59 (2019)

                      HM  1:33:56 (2018)

                      FM  3:23:07 (2018)

                      CommanderKeen


                      Aspiring Hobby Jogger

                        James - Pics of tutor aren't showing! 


                        Watson - Feeling better now? How was the family visit?


                        Mark - I'd certainly be ticked off if that happened to a marathon I was targeting!


                        CFarr - Aren't those little "extra" runs great? Pics/specs of new-to-you bike?


                        DPS - Two quite nice weeks!


                        NZ race errors - Oy...


                        Back to a more-normal week again. 7 good ones in a row, now.

                         

                        Weekly Summary
                        Monday, Sep 02, 2019 thru Sunday, Sep 08, 2019

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                        Day Miles Pace Description HR Link
                        Mon 13.3 7:43 8x 1k, 1 minute recovery 155 (79%) strava
                        Tue 10.5 8:23 Chasing an owl for half a mile 136 (69%) strava
                        Wed 10.5 8:16 3 owls & 2 rabbits 139 (71%) strava
                        Thu 13.3 7:33 9 at M effort in the middle 153 (78%) strava
                        Fri 10.5 8:25 2 owls, 1 deer (1 stride), & 1 rabbit 135 (69%) strava
                        Sat 15.5 8:20 Not-chicken "chicken" is better than not-beef "beef"? I'll take your word for it, Diane. 131 (67%) strava
                        Sun 2.5 8:01 A peloton's worth of MAMILs 134 (68%) strava
                          76.1 8:05      

                        5k: 18:25 10/19 (solo track TT) │ 10k: 38:56 4/18 │ HM: 1:24:16 11/19 │ M: 3:04:13 11/18

                         

                        Upcoming Races:

                        Dallas Marathon 12/15

                        JMac11


                        Benevolent Leader

                          DPS - I'll start our favorite conversation: easy pace. Take this as you will, but your easy pace seems too fast for your fitness level. My best guess is that you are somewhere around 2:50 marathon shape, which means you're doing easy run at MP+35. Even on the fast end, I think you would be around 7:30 pace. I think Mark runs the fastest easy runs on here, but he uses an HRM to back up why he runs so fast (plus it seems like his PRs have caught up and his easy runs are a touch slower than they used to be as he has gone to 60+ MPW, but even still, my calc would say 6:45 easy pace is his equivalent of your 7:30).

                           

                          If you want some good inspiration, check out Nimmals over on sub3. He just ran an age-graded mile of 93% (4:25), and yet all of his easy runs are 8:30+. Granted, he runs 100 MPW, but even if he was running more like 70MPW, I don't think he'd ever crack 8:00. Also feel free to just ignore all of this but it's something you should seriously consider if you want to get to top shape, which I think you have the potential to do. Maybe you wont' be running 8:00+ because you run relatively few workouts, but I don't think every run at 7:00 is ideal.

                           

                          Mark - that was a crazy finish! Also, I'll say it again: NZ is a joke with course distance. Seriously, contact race directors and tell them how unacceptable this is. You are surprisingly tolerant of incompetence. I guess that's because you're a Kiwi and you guys are all much nicer than us 

                          5K: 16:51 (8/19)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:16:05 (10/19)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (11/19) 

                           

                          Next Race: TBD

                          dpschumacher


                            Don't really know what this tells me or you but here is my heart rate data from the 14 mile progression with fast final 5k.

                             

                            2019 Goal: Run every day

                            2019 Goal: Get to 165 lbs

                            2019 Goal: Get in shape to be able to run 2 marathons in 2020

                            JMac11


                            Benevolent Leader

                              What's your max HR?

                              5K: 16:51 (8/19)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:16:05 (10/19)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (11/19) 

                               

                              Next Race: TBD

                              dpschumacher


                                I honestly don't know.  I have not been all out any anypoint in this training cycle.  I'm 35 (as of june) so something in the 185 to 190 range.

                                2019 Goal: Run every day

                                2019 Goal: Get to 165 lbs

                                2019 Goal: Get in shape to be able to run 2 marathons in 2020