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Brewing - got you. Yeah, the sad reality is just like you described.
Also, Salazar got caught on some technicalities but he will 100% continue doing what he's doing. And so will the others.
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Brewing - got you. Yeah, the sad reality is just like you described. Also, Salazar got caught on some technicalities but he will 100% continue doing what he's doing. And so will the others.
I'd argue that he did not get caught on technicalities; he attempted to get away with stuff via technicalities but was unable to do so.
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Most sports have a sportsmanship rule that can be used as a catch-all to cover many things not explicitly prohibited. I think the zig-zagging discussed earlier, even if not explicitly prohibited, would fall under the sportsmanship rule.
Here is USATF rule 145 (2)
Any competitor who shall refuse to obey the directions of the Referee or other properofficial, or who shall conduct himself/herself in an unsportsmanlike manner, or who isoffensive by action or language to the officials, spectators, or competitors at anycompetition, or under Rule 162.17, shall render that competitor liable to disqualificationby the Referee
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Most sports have a sportsmanship rule that can be used as a catch-all to cover many things not explicitly prohibited. I think the zig-zagging discussed earlier, even if not explicitly prohibited, would fall under the sportsmanship rule. Here is USATF rule 145 (2) Any competitor who shall refuse to obey the directions of the Referee or other properofficial, or who shall conduct himself/herself in an unsportsmanlike manner, or who isoffensive by action or language to the officials, spectators, or competitors at anycompetition, or under Rule 162.17, shall render that competitor liable to disqualificationby the Referee
Well then the track runners should let others pass on the inside lane instead of pushing them to the outside. They know it's a shorter distance and they're just hogging the lane going slow. It's not prohibited to refuse to move when someone is trying to pass you, but it is kind of a dick move to just stay there going slower than everyone else.
Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.
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The joke of everyone is that Salazar is a complete fraud, and with that so are the barfers of advice who post here. Because the sad reality is that none of you know any more than Alberto does. Nobody runs faster from your advice (unless they were really pathetic to begin with). In his own words he admits he can't teach anyone to run faster either.
What you call an idol, I call a fool.
Oh, and since I haven't written here for awhile, I thought to update you on what I've been doing...
In 2015 I saved the US Army $3.9 million they were wasting on useless biomechanic weapon research every year.
In 2015 I presented my research work with the Army at Ft. Leavenworth
In 2016 I was invited as a training and technology advisor to General HR. McMaster.
In 2017 I was invited to Ft. McNair to attend my first Army advisory meeting
In 2017 I was asked by the US Marines to rewrite their training manuals to include what I teach
In 2018 I was nominated by the Army's Futures Command for a RAND Corporation grant to pursue my training research for them
In 2018 I was invited by the director of combat training for SEAL Team 6 to teach what I demonstrated to Salazar.
During that demonstration the lab testing produced data tracking the improvements in oxygen consumption, force plate comparison, and motion capture using digitally recorded body markers do measure reduction in wasted body movement.
Today, I'm making the arrangements to teach the first pilot class with the Marines.
I don't have to drug anyone. I can teach anyone to run faster. And when you can teach a Soldier carrying 135lbs of equipment and record a heart rate at 7% incline on a treadmill lower than at 0%, your military credibility is without question.
Funny that military orthopedic surgeons, combat training specialists, and individuals who make life or death training decisions can figure out what I teach works, but every idiot runner I've ever met of course thinks they know more. So unless you can tell me how I do it, you'll understand why Salazar walked out of the room on me when I demonstrated that better running techniques exist.
He preferred to destroy careers than let anyone else prove they know more than he does.
Because if you think in the same position you wouldn't dope your athletes to improve endurance, unless you can tell everyone what you know that Salazar doesn't, by all means, our military forces would love to hear from you...
In the mean time, he's a coward. The truth is all it takes to prove it. Not to mention what he knows is just as useless as the advice you give.
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Oh crap, it looks like we all have to run like ostriches again!
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The funny thing is Alberto once tried super hard to get an athlete disqualified for impeding his runner in a race (which is very much against the rules). And she wasn’t blatantly zig zagging either, just ordinary racing stuff.
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After I saw that he posted here, I immediately had to check the "changed foot strike" thread. How did SportJester resist posting there?
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