https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvhSgxUdsdQ&feature=youtu.be
I've been reading about this a bit today and there are people praising and others decrying how it was done.
For me I don't care if there was a rotation of pacers and a v formation or any of the other stuff. The dude ran 26.2 miles. 26 seconds less and he would have broken 2. Wow. Simply wow. I am so impressed. I guess sub 2 is really a possibility Mind blowing.
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Honest question: how much manipulation of the achievement would be acceptable? 100% Tail-wind? Negative gradation? 100 rabbits? 90% gravity? Personal air conditioned environment?
Make it a standard race. Sure, there's environmental luck. Good LUCK!
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Honest question: how much manipulation of the achievement would be acceptable? 100% Tail-wind? Negative gradation? 100 rabbits? 90% gravity? Personal air conditioned environment? Make it a standard race. Sure, there's environmental luck. Good LUCK!
Honest answer for me. I think the point of Nike's push was to prove someone can go sub 2. Basically for me it's an experiment and huge marketing push. I don't see this attempt as a WR as those should be reserved for races with some standard boundaries (grade, wind, drugs, etc.). Berlin and London do allow pacers if I recall correctly and that's where the current WR was set.
Isn't the current WR 2:02 and change? 3 minutes is a lot to shave off in race conditions. May not happen in my lifetime based on the previous trajectory but to see a person go sub 2 in optimal settings would be pretty cool.
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I was just discussing this with CR today. The other two guys were no slouches, yet they failed miserably. I don't think he was nearly as aided as some may think.
I think this was worth 2:01 and change on a legit course (Berlin) with several guys all going for it. Dude is the real deal. This is what happens when you take racing for a 1st place prize purse out of the equation and put everything on time.
I don't really care how much aid he had, as long as this wasn't an anything-goes-let=s-EPO-him thing. Yes, they stacked the physical considerations in his favor, simply to try and show what is physically possible. Now we know 2:00:25 is possible under these conditions, which is likely to cause a few of these pros to thing 2:01 is now a legit goal when they wouldn't have even attempted it before. This is the kind of thing that breaks mental barriers, and this is certainly a mental sport.
But I still hate Nike.
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I agree not legit ... But that it was a "You must believe before it can be possible" Jedi mind trick.
If Nike really wants runners to "go for it" in a legit race. They should pick 2 races a year that can be certified as records and offer $25MM for the 1st runner to make the sub 2 hour possible.
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I was just discussing this with CR today. The other two guys were no slouches, yet they failed miserably. I don't think he was nearly as aided as some may think. I think this was worth 2:01 and change on a legit course (Berlin) with several guys all going for it. Dude is the real deal. This is what happens when you take racing for a 1st place prize purse out of the equation and put everything on time. I don't really care how much aid he had, as long as this wasn't an anything-goes-let=s-EPO-him thing. Yes, they stacked the physical considerations in his favor, simply to try and show what is physically possible. Now we know 2:00:25 is possible under these conditions, which is likely to cause a few of these pros to thing 2:01 is now a legit goal when they wouldn't have even attempted it before. This is the kind of thing that breaks mental barriers, and this is certainly a mental sport. But I still hate Nike.
Damn....did I call that one pretty well or what??
Yes you did, but I still hate Nike too!
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