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Saturdailies jumpin' like a rodeo saddle (Read 43 times)

Docket_Rocket


Former Bad Ass

    Had I known I am 2 miles off my highest mileage year ever, I would've run more.  I cannot wait until tomorrow!

     

    Damaris

    Docket_Rocket


    Former Bad Ass

      You can see what a surgery will do to your year, though, ha (2014).

      Damaris

      cjones1


        I don't see anything wrong with those splits cjones.

         

        I know, I guess I shouldn't compare to DaveP and onemile whose recent race splits don't vary by more than 5 sec/mile it seems.  Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled with my race today.

        PRs:

        5k - 20:51 - 9/5/15

        10k - 47:00 - 5/25/15

        15k - 1:10:19 - 11/21/15

        13.1 - 1:42:25- 4/25/15

        26.2 - TBD (someday)

        GinnyinPA


          For the folks who are so consistent in their splits:  do you constantly look at your watch, or have an app that is constantly updating you as to your pace?  My paces are all over the place, usually because of terrain or because I start out feeling good and then slow down, or I start out stiff and speed up as I warm up.  I usually start out faster than I want.  I've tried using the virtual pacer on my watch and it helps a little to slow me down, but I am never consistent.  I can sometimes end up averaging my goal pace, without ever actually doing that pace.  So how do you do it?

          cjones1


            I try not to look at my watch until each mile marker.  Sometimes I'm able to adjust if needed, sometimes I can't.

            PRs:

            5k - 20:51 - 9/5/15

            10k - 47:00 - 5/25/15

            15k - 1:10:19 - 11/21/15

            13.1 - 1:42:25- 4/25/15

            26.2 - TBD (someday)

            onemile


               

              I know, I guess I shouldn't compare to DaveP and onemile whose recent race splits don't vary by more than 5 sec/mile it seems.  Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled with my race today.

               

              Not quite.

              There was 27 seconds difference in my fastest mile (7:16) and slowest mile (7:43) at my marathon.  And for my half marathon, 13 seconds (6:54 / 7:07).

               

              Your splits actually look really good minus the first 2 miles. Did you do a warm up? Or maybe you just under estimated your fitness?

              onemile


                For the folks who are so consistent in their splits:  do you constantly look at your watch, or have an app that is constantly updating you as to your pace?  My paces are all over the place, usually because of terrain or because I start out feeling good and then slow down, or I start out stiff and speed up as I warm up.  I usually start out faster than I want.  I've tried using the virtual pacer on my watch and it helps a little to slow me down, but I am never consistent.  I can sometimes end up averaging my goal pace, without ever actually doing that pace.  So how do you do it?

                 

                I think it just comes naturally.  I don't run hilly races so there isn't much variance in terrain. I mostly run races by effort actually, even at the marathon distance but do keep an eye on my pace to keep it controlled in the beginning for a marathon (for a half I completely trust the effort and if I am faster than planned I go with it). And then in the later miles, I try my best not to let my pace slip (checking my garmin some but really just running as hard as I can maintain for what is remaining).  I do warm ups before my races so that my first mile is not slower.  With the exception of a marathon where I can hit pace without a warm up.  So I guess the answer is... race experience?

                LRB


                  Hitting race pace from the gun for me involves a warm-up of 2 to 3 miles, which includes about a quarter mile at 10 k pace and 1 to 3 strides. Anything less than that and I have to work my way to race pace during the event.

                  cjones1


                     

                    Not quite.

                    There was 27 seconds difference in my fastest mile (7:16) and slowest mile (7:43) at my marathon.  And for my half marathon, 13 seconds (6:54 / 7:07).

                     

                    Your splits actually look really good minus the first 2 miles. Did you do a warm up? Or maybe you just under estimated your fitness?

                     

                    1 mile warm up which was too short and yes I probably underestimated my fitness.  I was a little gunshy after my half in October when my first two miles were similar to today, but got progressively slower after that.

                    PRs:

                    5k - 20:51 - 9/5/15

                    10k - 47:00 - 5/25/15

                    15k - 1:10:19 - 11/21/15

                    13.1 - 1:42:25- 4/25/15

                    26.2 - TBD (someday)

                      For the folks who are so consistent in their splits:  do you constantly look at your watch

                       

                      Yes.

                      Although when it's going well, I get into a groove where I find I am staying on pace and do not need to make any adjustments. Then may start looking at my watch less frequently.

                      For me the keys are:

                      1. Picking the right goal (duh)

                      2. Training at race pace (give your body the muscle memory)

                      3. Having recently raced the distance (keep trying till you get it right)

                      4. A flat course (ffs)

                       

                      People always talk about racing by feel; I can't imagine ever doing that, although when all the planets are aligning maybe I could.

                      Dave

                        For the folks who are so consistent in their splits:  do you constantly look at your watch, or have an app that is constantly updating you as to your pace?  My paces are all over the place, usually because of terrain or because I start out feeling good and then slow down, or I start out stiff and speed up as I warm up.  I usually start out faster than I want.  I've tried using the virtual pacer on my watch and it helps a little to slow me down, but I am never consistent.  I can sometimes end up averaging my goal pace, without ever actually doing that pace.  So how do you do it?

                         

                        When I stopped giving a crap about splits, racing got a whole lot more fun. Don’t get me wrong, I care very much about training, and I measure workouts, and probably obsess about numbers as much as anyone. But I don’t like race day to turn into some weird split hitting task. I just want to run. So in the 50 or so races since Oct 2012, the only ones I could even tell you what my splits were are Boston (because they post them with your results), and track miles (because the clock is pretty much in your face for those). One of my favorite parts of a race is the little surprise I get when the finish clock is finally in view, and I learn (timewise) how my race was.

                        Come all you no-hopers, you jokers and rogues
                        We're on the road to nowhere, let's find out where it goes
                        wcrunner2


                        Are we there, yet?

                          For the folks who are so consistent in their splits:  do you constantly look at your watch, or have an app that is constantly updating you as to your pace?

                           

                          No, I check my watch only at split points to see where I am. Splits for my last 5K (9:38, 9:41, 9:37, :55).

                           2024 Races:

                                03/09 - Livingston Oval Ultra 6-Hour, 22.88 miles

                                05/11 - D3 50K
                                05/25 - What the Duck 12-Hour

                                06/17 - 6 Days in the Dome 12-Hour.

                           

                           

                               

                             

                            When I stopped giving a crap about splits, racing got a whole lot more fun. Don’t get me wrong, I care very much about training, and I measure workouts, and probably obsess about numbers as much as anyone. But I don’t like race day to turn into some weird split hitting task. I just want to run. So in the 50 or so races since Oct 2012, the only ones I could even tell you what my splits were are Boston (because they post them with your results), and track miles (because the clock is pretty much in your face for those). One of my favorite parts of a race is the little surprise I get when the finish clock is finally in view, and I learn (timewise) how my race was.

                             

                            I still get this (and not always a good surprise), because despite being glued to my watch for much of a race, I never look at it in the last mile. Because I figure at that point I am giving everything I have left and there's nothing else I can do about it.

                            Dave

                            Cyberic


                               

                              When I stopped giving a crap about splits, racing got a whole lot more fun. Don’t get me wrong, I care very much about training, and I measure workouts, and probably obsess about numbers as much as anyone. But I don’t like race day to turn into some weird split hitting task. I just want to run. So in the 50 or so races since Oct 2012, the only ones I could even tell you what my splits were are Boston (because they post them with your results), and track miles (because the clock is pretty much in your face for those). One of my favorite parts of a race is the little surprise I get when the finish clock is finally in view, and I learn (timewise) how my race was.

                               

                              Interesting. I don't see myself doing that in the near future, but it is interesting.

                              LRB


                                 Interesting. I don't see myself doing that in the near future, but it is interesting.

                                 

                                I've worked at it extensively, and suck at extensively it. lol

                                 

                                It's actually quite liberating during easy runs and track sessions. I have yet to find that zone during events however, so it remains a work in progress.