According to the Daniels calculator, the paces that feel about right for me are for a 4:30 marathon, which right now feel about right every day except marathon day.  According to Garmin, I'm overtraining constantly if you look at HR.  Last night's run is a good example.  It was an easy, flat run with a friend on something between a track and a path.  We were faster than I usually run, and I felt it a bit, but honestly we were mostly chatting about kids and holidays and etc.  Now, Garmin says that it was a training level 4.7 run, damn near overtraining level.  I supposedly ran for 32 minutes with my HR in "zone 5", and 36 minutes in "zone 4".  I think I'd be dying if I had actually done that.

 

Clearly, I need to race a 5K to get a more accurate max HR, but that sounds unpleasant.  I'm much more tempted these days to just show up and run what I run.

If you're going to pay any attention to these figures (HR zones, training effect, ...) you need to configure them correctly. I used the heart rate reserve algorithm instead of just max HR. But for that you need resting HR as well as max HR.

8 miles, making it 2803 for the year. And with a couple days to spare. 

According to the Daniels calculator, the paces that feel about right for me are for a 4:30 marathon, which right now feel about right every day except marathon day.  According to Garmin, I'm overtraining constantly if you look at HR.  Last night's run is a good example.  It was an easy, flat run with a friend on something between a track and a path.  We were faster than I usually run, and I felt it a bit, but honestly we were mostly chatting about kids and holidays and etc.  Now, Garmin says that it was a training level 4.7 run, damn near overtraining level.  I supposedly ran for 32 minutes with my HR in "zone 5", and 36 minutes in "zone 4".  I think I'd be dying if I had actually done that.

 

Clearly, I need to race a 5K to get a more accurate max HR, but that sounds unpleasant.  I'm much more tempted these days to just show up and run what I run.

I guess that depends on how your HR info is determined by you and/or your garmin.

My guess is that garmin thinks your max HR is much lower than what it actually is.

And there are other ways to get a good estimate of your max other than running a 5K all out.  They aren't really any less painful.  

My McMillan easy pace range (based on marathon time) is 7:59-9:00. My actual easy range is more like 8:45-9:15. Seems strange that the bottom limit of easy is exactly MP. Which doesn't seem right.

They put recovery pace at 9:06-9:46; I never designate anything specifically as a recovery run, but I guess that's what my slower easy runs actually are.

Easy pace based on my 5k PR = 7:33-8:33. lolz.

According to the Daniels calculator, the paces that feel about right for me are for a 4:30 marathon, which right now feel about right every day except marathon day.  According to Garmin, I'm overtraining constantly if you look at HR.  Last night's run is a good example.  It was an easy, flat run with a friend on something between a track and a path.  We were faster than I usually run, and I felt it a bit, but honestly we were mostly chatting about kids and holidays and etc.  Now, Garmin says that it was a training level 4.7 run, damn near overtraining level.  I supposedly ran for 32 minutes with my HR in "zone 5", and 36 minutes in "zone 4".  I think I'd be dying if I had actually done that.

 

Clearly, I need to race a 5K to get a more accurate max HR, but that sounds unpleasant.  I'm much more tempted these days to just show up and run what I run.

I would say go by the HR indications, but they are useless unless you added your max and your zones yourself instead of what Garmin tells you.  If you go by what they calculated for you, they might be all off.

At least I'm ahead of Baboon this year, if you only count running, and running is all that really counts, right?

 

I just went in and changed my max HR to 190, which seems to be a reasonable non-spikey measurement at the end of a 5 x 1000 workout.  We'll see if that affects the zones or not.  It could just be that I'm always running too hard, no matter what the pace is.

Did you have Garmin connect or express or whatever recalculate your zones?  I don't think it does it by itself just by changing the max HR, or does it?

I don't think your last sentence is possible the way it is written. But I think I understand what you mean.

Nice year.  I'm not at all jealous and I don't hate you.  Much.

Well, you still have me beat on total time run.