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Choosing a 10K goal (Read 50 times)

bluerun


Super B****

    One of the reasons to hate the 10k, is the effort involved.  It has always been said to me that a proper 10k race is damn near 5k pace.  ie: it will suck damn near as much for 2x as long.

     

     

    My 'good' but not PR 5k time x2 is right on my PR for a 10k.

     

    My PR 5k time x2 is about 1 min faster than my 10k PR.

     

     

    Which means, my pace differential between 5k and 10k  *provided* similar performance levels/ weather etc...  is around 8-11 seconds.

    IE: fast enough to suck! nearly as bad for 2x as long...

     

    More than twice as long, really.

     

    I refuse to believe this.  The prospect is too daunting. 

    chasing the impossible

     

    because i never shut up ... i blog

    LRB


       

      More than twice as long, really.

       

      I refuse to believe this.  The prospect is too daunting. 

       

      Yeah, Sly is just screwing with you. It's not two 5k's, it's its own race.

       

      Treat it as such and you will be fine.

      bluerun


      Super B****

         

        Yeah, Sly is just screwing with you. It's not two 5k's, it's its own race.

         

        Treat it as such and you will be fine.

         

        I'm going to go back to choosing shoes, then. 

        chasing the impossible

         

        because i never shut up ... i blog


        Mmmmm...beer

           

          Now onto the really important decision... which shoes do I wear?! 

           

          The ones that match your outfit of course, what kind of question is that? lol

          -Dave

          My running blog

          Goals | sub-18 5k | sub-3 marathon 2:56:46!!

          bluerun


          Super B****

             

            The ones that match your outfit of course, what kind of question is that? lol

             

            Most of my shoes (at least the ones I'd wear to race in) are red.  This doesn't help. 

            chasing the impossible

             

            because i never shut up ... i blog


            Mmmmm...beer

               

              Most of my shoes (at least the ones I'd wear to race in) are red.  This doesn't help. 

               

              In that case, I'd go with the lightest ones. 

              -Dave

              My running blog

              Goals | sub-18 5k | sub-3 marathon 2:56:46!!

              bluerun


              Super B****

                 

                In that case, I'd go with the lightest ones. 

                 

                My very lightest shoes aren't red... I think the third-lightest are (nobody's ever heard of these, but the adipure Gazelle -- I love them).  I'm thinking of those, if I can fit them in my pack so that I don't have to run there in them!

                chasing the impossible

                 

                because i never shut up ... i blog

                bluerun


                Super B****

                   

                  Those are my lightest shoes.  They do not match.

                  chasing the impossible

                   

                  because i never shut up ... i blog


                  Mmmmm...beer

                     

                    Those are my lightest shoes.  They do not match.

                     

                     

                    Then you need to go get some race flats that match. 

                    -Dave

                    My running blog

                    Goals | sub-18 5k | sub-3 marathon 2:56:46!!

                    bluerun


                    Super B****

                       

                      Also don't match!

                       

                       

                      Kinda do match.

                       

                      Nothing else up for contention unless it's something I can wear to run there AND race in, because these are the only three that MIGHT fit in the pack.  (I mean... I'd run there in the T7 racer.  I don't actually consider that a racing flat.  It's also neon yellow, but we make certain exceptions for the "matching" rule. )

                      chasing the impossible

                       

                      because i never shut up ... i blog

                      DavePNW


                        Sorry I'm late on this, because you know how I feel about shoes, and I definitely don't have any comments on that.

                         

                        It seems to be the consensus that 10k's suck more than other race distances. Not sure I agree; they all have their own various types of suckiness.

                         

                         

                        21:21

                        48:02

                        1:41:51

                         

                        For reference, these were my previous PR's set during a ~5-week period in Spring 2014:

                        21:33

                        45:46

                        1:45:31

                        (Started 3 weeks after a marathon; the HM time represents still being in recovery mode, and was a large negative split, so could've been faster)

                         

                        I would shoot for 7:15 / sub-45. The nice thing about short races is if you blow up, so what, you can always do more. Easier said than done I know, it's hard to make yourself take that risk during the race (for some of us).

                         

                        My main point would be like any race distance, don't expect to get it right the first time. Ultimately I think 7:10 / 44:30 is realistic if you want to take a few cracks at it.

                        Dave

                        Docket_Rocket


                        Former Bad Ass

                          I agree with the 7:08 recommendations. Even on such a horrid day, you are headed to a PR so why not try aggressively?

                          Damaris

                          Docket_Rocket


                          Former Bad Ass

                             

                            Also don't match!

                             

                             

                            Kinda do match.

                             

                            Nothing else up for contention unless it's something I can wear to run there AND race in, because these are the only three that MIGHT fit in the pack.  (I mean... I'd run there in the T7 racer.  I don't actually consider that a racing flat.  It's also neon yellow, but we make certain exceptions for the "matching" rule. )

                             

                            red is needed for sure.  I like the last ones here.

                            Damaris

                            bluerun


                            Super B****

                              I agree with the 7:08 recommendations. Even on such a horrid day, you are headed to a PR so why not try aggressively?

                               

                              Erm... because the last time I was headed to a PR and tried semi-aggressively I wound up with 48:02? 

                              chasing the impossible

                               

                              because i never shut up ... i blog

                              Docket_Rocket


                              Former Bad Ass

                                 

                                Erm... because the last time I was headed to a PR and tried semi-aggressively I wound up with 48:02? 

                                 

                                Cause you were too aggressive for the conditions that day but having run all these hot and humid 5Ks will help you this weekend.

                                Damaris

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