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When you have to DNS a race (Read 139 times)

onemile


    Also, I don't think a DNS is a big deal or a failure.  I'd DNS a race if the weather was bad or if I felt like I was risking injury by doing the race or if I changed my mind about wanting to do the race or if I decided to do another race instead or if I felt like I wasn't in racing shape or if I couldn't find the right outfit to wear .   Some people think a DNS (or DNF even) is the end of the world but the only thing I feel bad about is losing money on the race fee (or if a DNS due to injury, I feel sorry for myself for my injury).

    Just B.S.


      Hilary, that's why I'm not a fan of announcing what I plan on doing in the coming year. I run races for myself, not for others to cheer for me. So if I want to DNS a race, for any reason, there is no disappointment, or eye rolling, among those I could have potentially have announced it to.

       

       

       

      Ditto me on that. I have told people that hubby and I are doing our first Half Iron July 2015 but I am already

      physically ready so for that it's more of a fun anticipation thing for me. We have about 12 or 13 other races

      running and triathlon planned for 2014 and I mostly don't talk about them until they are done and over with.


      You don't see my name on  race lists here. Hell I don't even tell any non runners or most family IRL

      other than hubby and sons when I am running  a marathon or most other races for that matter. After you have

      been racing for 10 years (2014 will be 11th year of racing half and longer )nobody cares anyway, if they ever

      did . Smile Our extended families have zero idea that we are doing our first Half Iron, they probably wouldn't even

      have a clue what that is. Smile


      Hil, I am also in the camp that you shouldn't write it off yet. You ran a good half just a few weeks ago and had the

      base for that so it is still possible so don't give up yet! Try to keep up any cross training you are able to do and

      keep the hope!

      DavePNW


         

        We have about 12 or 13 other races running and triathlon planned for 2014 and I mostly don't talk about them until they are done and over with.


        You don't see my name on  race lists here. Hell I don't even tell any non runners or most family IRL

        other than hubby and sons when I am running  a marathon or most other races for that matter. After you have

        been racing for 10 years (2014 will be 11th year of racing half and longer )nobody cares anyway, if they ever

        did .

         

        I don't think it has to do with how long you have been doing it, because I feel the same way and I am pretty new at it. Just a matter of personal preference. And on a running forum, I think in general EVERYONE cares.  For me maybe it is more a superstition, a not counting chickens before they're hatched kind of thing. Plenty of people here announce 10 months in advance what they are racing, I can't imagine it for myself.

        Dave


        Mmmmm...beer

          I certainly wouldn't see it as a failure, you have to think long term.  But at the same time, I also agree that not all is lost yet.  Everyone is different, but it took me less than a month to bounce back from my piriformis issue, hopefully you can do the same and be able to resume training. Smile

          -Dave

          My running blog

          Goals | sub-18 5k | sub-3 marathon 2:56:46!!


          delicate flower

            My question for you guys is how did you get over the feelings associated with a DNS as big as this?  So many friends, co-workers, and family members are rooting for me and I feel like I am disappointing them by "giving up." Thoughts or any advice you can give.

             

            I have not even come close to running anything as big as Boston, so I can't really speak to that.  I've had a handful of DNS's though.  Nobody thinks you are giving up and quitting.  They are disappointed, but they are disappointed for you, not with you.  People know you want to race, and they feel for you when you can't.  Nobody is going to feel let down though.

             

             

             

             

            I've got no problem talking about my upcoming races and my goals.  Here are the ones I'm already registered for:

             

            2/22:  Colchester HM.  No goal time....it's a hard course and the weather can be a significant factor.  My goal is to run as hard as conditions allow.

            3/22:  Savin Rock HM.  Goal is a PR (1:34:50).  Tough course to do it on, but I'm gunning for it.

            5/25:  Vermont City Marathon.  Goal is to BQ (3:15).  A lofty goal.  I'll be satisfied to just run my best though.  If I fail to BQ, I'll try again in October.

             

            I don't see what the big deal is in talking about races and goals ahead of time.  If I miss my goals, I'll be my own harshest critic.  If I DNS, I DNS for a damn good reason.   Nobody is going to give you crap if you talk about a race you've registered for and then DNS due to an injury.  I like to talk about my upcoming races because I solicit advice on training, goals, expectations, and paces specific to each race.  I don't do it for the "rah rah go baboon", though I won't turn down any of those comments.  Wink

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            Love the Half


              Step 1 - Bitch and complain.  Continue to bitch and complain until I realize that everyone is tired of listening to me bitch and complain.

               

              Step 2 - Step back and reassess where I am and where I want to be.  Set new goals accordingly.

              Short term goal: 17:59 5K

              Mid term goal:  2:54:59 marathon

              Long term goal: To say I've been a runner half my life.  (I started running at age 45).

              happylily


                Phil, I get what you're saying. I agree that it's ok to discuss goals, ask for advice or opinions on them, etc... But let's say that I were to announce to my real life friends and my family that I am going back to school full time next September, a dream of mine, and I get everyone cheering for me big time, etc... Then, a few months later, the roof on the house starts leaking, I need to get it changed, and I decide that I'd better keep working, that I can't afford to go back to school at this point in my life. Yes, it would be my decision and I shouldn't be embarrassed by it. But subconsciously, I would fear what people think of me. For no reason, really. I think Hilary feels like that at the moment.

                PRs: Boston Marathon, 3:27, April 15th 2013

                        Cornwall Half-Marathon, 1:35, April 27th 2013

                18 marathons, 18 BQs since 2010

                Just B.S.


                   

                  I don't think it has to do with how long you have been doing it, because I feel the same way and I am pretty new at it. Just a matter of personal preference. And on a running forum, I think in general EVERYONE cares.  For me maybe it is more a superstition, a not counting chickens before they're hatched kind of thing. Plenty of people here announce 10 months in advance what they are racing, I can't imagine it for myself.

                   

                  I was referring to the IRL non running people and family who have no interest in athletics.
                  I know 100% they don't care about my races Smile

                  Nevrgivup


                    The biggest reason why I am so psyched to do Boston is because of what it took to get there. Of course I didn't qualify but earned my spot for the shit I went through this past April. Imo. Being invited to run was pretty cool hence the reason why I really really want to run it. Having volunteered for the last three years, I think it will be pretty cool to see the other side.

                    Dave- I would love to see this clear up in a month like yours. Its been two weeks today.

                    Running is my mental-Ctrl-Alt-Del. 


                    Hip Redux

                      Pop psychology coming!

                       

                      There is a certain amount of "peer pressure" (whether real or perceived) when announcing goals of any sort.  Some thrive on that - knowing that their goal is "out there" and there is outside pressure to perform and do what they say they are going to do.  And obviously some don't want that outside pressure at all.   I don't think either is right or wrong, just different way people deal with things.

                       

                      Then there's also the superstition part of announcing goals, which is sort of a different phenomenon.

                       

                      happylily


                        Pop psychology coming!

                         

                        There is a certain amount of "peer pressure" (whether real or perceived) when announcing goals of any sort.  Some thrive on that - knowing that their goal is "out there" and there is outside pressure to perform and do what they say they are going to do.  And obviously some don't want that outside pressure at all.   I don't think either is right or wrong, just different way people deal with things.

                         

                        Then there's also the superstition part of announcing goals, which is sort of a different phenomenon.

                         

                        I agree 100% with coach Oskio. I'll buy your undies, coach. 

                        PRs: Boston Marathon, 3:27, April 15th 2013

                                Cornwall Half-Marathon, 1:35, April 27th 2013

                        18 marathons, 18 BQs since 2010

                        GinnyinPA


                          I haven't been running all that long (since Aug. 2011) but I do know about DNSing a goal race.  Four days before my first HM, in March 2012, I developed a pelvic stress fracture.  I was really upset because it was something I had trained for and been really looking forward to.  On the day of the race, I dressed and thought maybe I could run, until I actually tried to run down the street and the pain let me know I wasn't going anywhere.  I got mad, I cried, and I tried to get back to running before I was really ready, so prolonged my healing by doing too much.  The long recovery meant I couldn't do another HM that I had also signed up for, but didn't care as much about.  So I was out the money for two races, which hurt.

                           

                          Eight months after my injury, I was back to running.  A nearby club offered 1/2 price entry to a HM, if you signed up on Jan. 1.  The race was in September.  Good, I had plenty of time to train.  By July I was running 14 miles and felt I was on track to doing pretty well on the race.  So, of course, I got injured again (either another sfx or osteitis pubis).  So I missed that race, as well as a 10k race in December that I really wanted to do.  I considered walking the course, just to do it, but realized that I would probably push myself and exacerbate the injury.  For that one, I had time to get used to the idea of not running, so it wasn't as painful as the first DNS, but it still hurt.  At least in part, the frustration comes because I knew I wouldn't be ready for our  local HM (the one I missed originally) as it takes place in March and I wasn't able to start running again until late fall.  The next one I may be able to run is next September.  But I'm not counting on it.

                           

                          I never cared about losing face, or wondering what others would think, because that isn't my motivation for running or racing.  I know that nobody really pays attention to what I do except me (and possibly my husband, who is impacted by my training).  I did care that my body let me down, because it has implications for the future, and I did care that the training I did was not going to have the reward that I had hoped (the chance to experience a goal race.)

                           

                          In your case, it's only been two weeks.  You have time to see how your body heals. Don't give up yet.

                          RSX


                            I have run 5 Bostons. The next 3 were DNF, DNS, and DNS. All non-finishes were due to injuries. It sucked to watch the first DNS year. I didn't sign up again until I had 2 more finishes which happened in the Fall. I gave myself the month of December to send in my application which I did.

                             

                            Anyway a lot of plans started around Christmas so you haven't missed much. If you mailed the app in,I would reassess everything in a week and go from there. If you haven't mailed in the app take all the time you need.

                            LRB


                              So many friends, co-workers, and family members are rooting for me and I feel like I am disappointing them by "giving up."

                               

                              A very simplified view of your dilemma is when you remove the emotion ("I feel like...") from the equation, what is left is reality.  And the reality is you either can or cannot run it.

                               

                              For the most part, this is the defining factor when deciding whether to run a race or not.  Can you actually run it?  If you cannot then the decision has been made for you, you just simply must come to terms with it.

                               

                              Other things to consider when injured is can you run it and still hang a respectable time, or will running it do further damage and so on.  But if you cannot even run, then you have not given up on anything.  Fact.

                               

                              We all handle these things differently so telling you what I would do is pointless....so I will do it anyway. lol  The bigger the race, the bigger and bitter the pill!  There is no right way to whine about taking a big fat DNS oozing with sauerkraut and green cheese, only your way.

                               

                              I did not say a word about my decision until the day I came to grips with sitting it out, other people talk about it incessantly.  Like O said, it is just a different perspective on things, which epitomizes who we are as a people; different.

                               

                              If I were in your shoes, I would be hard at work just trying to get to the point  to where I can run, then make the final decision when all practical hope is gone.

                               

                              During that time though you just keep readjusting your training schedule e.g. a 16 week plan, becomes a 12 week plan, becomes an 8 week plan becomes a 4 week plan becomes a DNS.  If it comes to that.

                              Nevrgivup


                                LRB- Your response was so thought provoking and I thank you.  I also want to thank everyone for their responses.

                                 

                                Oski- Yes. Pop culture it is. Lol. Its part of my personality I guess. I wish I wasn't such a type A perfectionist who doesn't want to let others down. The other monkey wrench to throw in the mix is that I run for a girl with a disability and would love to be able to run for her as well. Fundraising and all. Maybe I should just talk to her mother and tell her it may be taking a risk. To accept the donations and than if I'm unable to run. How would I feel than? I may be over thinking this a bit.

                                For now, I will try my best to at least get to the starting line and take it week to week. It is still early.

                                Running is my mental-Ctrl-Alt-Del. 

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