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Showing Support for Boston by Qualifying in the next upcoming years BUT..... (Read 172 times)

FreeSoul87


Runs4Sanity

    My age group is 18-34, qualifying time is 3:35:00 apparently and that is an average pace of 8:12... and I highly doubt I will ever reach that even for a Half Marathon (okay I might be able to do that one).

    Not saying that I am just DYING to do it, but for others in the same average pace group as me, how in the hell could they ever qualify and run Boston to show their support with requirements like this? The Boston Marathon is definitely the Unicorn of marathons, that is for sure.

    Maybe it's just that I hate it when something is out of my reach, because I think if it didn't have those kinds of standards then I probably wouldn't care as much. Full marathons aren't really my thing as of yet, I find half marathon to be challenging and gratifying enough but I figure one or two full marathons before I am either 30 or pregnant again isn't such a bad idea.

    Hmmm.... thoughts

     

     

    http://running.competitor.com/2013/04/news/want-to-qualify-for-boston-in-2014_70892

    *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

    PRs

    5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

    10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

    15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

    13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

     26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)


    Hip Redux

      A lot of people do Boston with a charity entry.   Lots of great causes that you can support to run it, if you really want to - it's about $5K worth of fundraising.

       


      Jess runs for bacon

        I'll be going the charity route myself, since there is no way in hell I will qualify in the next 20 years. I was already thinking about it before this happened.

        FreeSoul87


        Runs4Sanity

          The mythical unicorn of running has definitely had my eye for a few years, just out of amazement mostly.

          Do you have to raise the $5k before being able to qualify, or  before the day of the race? Is there a link to a website where I could find more out on this?

          *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

          PRs

          5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

          10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

          15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

          13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

           26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)


          Hip Redux

            The mythical unicorn of running has definitely had my eye for a few years, just out of amazement mostly.

            Do you have to raise the $5k before being able to qualify, or  before the day of the race? Is there a link to a website where I could find more out on this?

             

             

            You join a charity team and fundraise up to the day of the event- typically if you haven't reached the minimum, they'll just expect you to personally make up the difference (but don't quote me on that).

             

            Here's the BAA page:

            http://216.235.243.43/utilities/charities.aspx

             

              For my age group, the time limit is 3:40:00 (8:23). Now, I comfortably do my easy runs between 9:10 and 9:32, 9:40 when I feel like a pile o'crap. I raced a five-miler in Cambridge twelve days ago in 42:21 (8:28). It convinced me that, with more time and training, I might BQ and run Boston before I'm forty.

              FreeSoul87


              Runs4Sanity

                Awesome, not sure if I want to next year BUT I am definitely interested in 1 or 2 fulls. I'll re-examine my goals after this Fall's 3 HMs, 2 in October and one in November. All with relatively flat courses, the middle/second one will be purely for pleasure while the 1st and third will be PR attempts.

                *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

                PRs

                5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

                10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

                15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

                13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

                 26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)

                DavePNW


                  It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great. (In the words of the Tom Hanks character from A League of Their Own.)

                   

                  Not to demean the charity route, but as a runner I think the ultimate goal is to qualify on time.

                  What makes you think you can never qualify? You are young, you have plenty of time if that's what you decide to do (and are able to stay healthy...). I have less time and I am still way off, but I was somewhat encouraged by this thread from one of the main boards. People posted their first marathon time & their PR. Someone did an analysis (on the page I linked), while although not statistically sound, was interesting. Of the people whose first time was 4:00-4:30, the average was 4:17. For that group, the PR was 3:24. My first (and only so far) was 4:16. BQ time for my AG is 3:25. Voila, there is hope! (And even more in 2 years when my BQ time is 3:30!)

                  Dave


                  Hip Redux

                    There's nothing wrong with doing the charity route, and also work towards a BQ later with more experience.

                     

                    Besides, raising $5K for a charity isn't walk in the park AND you still have to prepare to run 26.2 miles.  Smile 

                     

                    MrNamtor


                      It's supposed to be hard... The hard is what makes it great.

                       

                      TWSS

                      DavePNW


                        Dave

                        happylily


                          It's not out of reach... It's right there for you to grab. If you're a bit of a natural, you only need about 50 mpw. If you're not a natural, you might need 70-80 mpw. Add to that speedwork, the right weight, the right diet and some good nights of sleep and you're set, you have your sub-3:35.

                          PRs: Boston Marathon, 3:27, April 15th 2013

                                  Cornwall Half-Marathon, 1:35, April 27th 2013

                          18 marathons, 18 BQs since 2010

                          FreeSoul87


                          Runs4Sanity

                            True ya'll, the more I think about it and I've looked back on my improvements over winter, I think there is hope for me. Maybe not in the next 5 years, but maybe so. Though I would like to do a charity someday, I would much rather qualify. Smile

                            *Do It For Yourself, Do It Because They Said It Was Impossible, Do It Because They Said You Were Incapable*

                            PRs

                            5k - 24:15 (7:49 min/mile pace) 

                            10k - 51:47 (8:16 min/mile pace)

                            15k -1:18:09 (8:24 min/mile pace)

                            13.1 - 1:53:12 (8:39 min/mile pace)

                             26:2 - 4:14:55 (9:44 min/mile)

                            Love the Half


                              I think there is an assumption among those with a bit of talent that all it takes to BQ is hard work.  That is not correct.  For most people, it take a lot of hard work and a decent bit of talent.  For some, it takes an enormous amount of work to overcome the lack of talent and for a few, it takes not much work at all.  Still, I go into it assuming a person has average talent.  In that case, I would ask you to do the following before insisting you'll never BQ.

                               

                              1.  Get your BMI below 22.  No, BMI isn't a perfect indicator of fitness but weight is weight and the less you carry around, the better off you'll be when it comes to distance running.

                               

                              2.  Run over 2,500 miles per year for at least two years.  There is no substitute for mileage.  None.  That weekly stuff we banter about matters much, much less than your mileage over time.  It's easy to get your mileage over 50 mpw for a few weeks.  It's hard to average 50 mpw over a year.  You need weeks of 70+ miles to make up for weeks in which you are sick or the kids are sick or you have to work late or whatever.

                               

                              3.  Do at least one speed session per week over those two years.  I don't mean just easy speed stuff like strides and fartleks.  You need those as well.  I'm talking about 6 mile tempo runs and 12 mile marathon pace runs and 3-4 miles of VO2max workouts.

                               

                              4.  Do strength stuff like planks and hill sprints and strides and form drills in addition to the speed sessions.

                               

                              5.  Do at least one run of over 2 1/2 hours each month over that two year period.

                               

                              If you do that and you're still not close to running a BQ, then it is entirely possible you don't have the talent for it.  That's not a value judgement.  I clearly don't have the talent to compete even on a regional level in my age group let alone on a national level.  We all have our talent level and it is what it is.  Still, if someone is running 20-30 mpw and rarely doing speedwork, I don't buy the assertion that you'll never BQ.

                              Short term goal: 17:59 5K

                              Mid term goal:  2:54:59 marathon

                              Long term goal: To say I've been a runner half my life.  (I started running at age 45).

                              baxdaddy


                              just another runner

                                LTH, how does one quantify "average talent"?  I am curious to know where I stand.  I think your post has merit and thus need to know what lies ahead.  Mentor me oh wise one, as I am but a lowly NCO.

                                The first step is to get up off the couch!

                                Half Fanatic #889

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