Nice run Dave and WTG with your streaking!! I got in an AWESOME 19 miler. If I had brought water I would have probably gone for at least 3 more miles. It didn't quite go as I had planned. I was thinking to do something like this. First 5 9:15-10:00 pace then speed up and do the next 5 between 8:45-8:55 than speed up for the next 5 8:25-8:35. Last five would be nice and easy around 9:00-9:15 pace. Anyways I ended up with 12 miles faster than Marathon pace 6 of them faster than 8:35. I never did do the 5 easy pace miles at the end. All I could think about was water and how I actually thought about drinking out of the river cause I was so thirsty. I also only stopped once for water and had 2 powerbar gel blasts (not even a single serving) I was looking for something long hard and wet however it wasn't quite as hard or wet as I thought it would be! So 19 miles at an average pace of 8:48

Sounds like you had fun Kimmie! Way to conquer that hill! MTA: Kimmie I sooooooooo needed water hence why I stopped at 19 miles since I was right by the house and not close to anywater other than a river, the rain and mud puddles. Pretty sad when your in the shower drinking the hot water coming down

Kimmie - we're leaving for Boston day after tomorrow. I think there will be two days of all day shopping for the grandson arriving in August , well, maybe we'll hit the expo Friday evening and shop all day Saturday. Whatever, it'll be fun. We're meeting up with a bunch of RA and KR (old coolrunning) masters at a party on Sunday, then run and run and run, and hopefully a good postrace party. Do I sound excited? We went to a reception for a brewpub we're investing in, in VA tonight -- that was fun! This was the first time I had any of the beers by the CEO/brewmaster -- needless to say they were excellent. They're hoping to open in November. Really nice facility, although it's all concrete floors and ceilings now. If any of the pictures I took come out well I'll post them, but it might be a couple of days before I find time.

Got an easy 6m in, and although it looked threatening and sprinkled briefly, it didn't rain. My wife said she was going to run until she felt done; I said I'd bring the fork (that's how you test if something is done, right?)

Because Lou asked:

You pump your knees up, swing your arms from and back straight (doesn't mean not bending but not side-way swing). As you lift your knees up, you sort of "snap" your ankle and back-leg to push off the ground. You should feel a bit of tension behind your knees; not much, but a little tension. Here's the slow-motion visual: http://www.lydiardfoundation.org/training/hilltrainingdvd.aspx For now, though, stick with the first exercise.: Steep Hill Running. The other two are very demanding to your legs; particularly on your Achilles. Chance of getting injured is too high.

The first exercise he called hill springing. The second hill bounding, I don't do that..

Reading these hill workout discussions also makes me want to do some hill repeats at some point.

Dave did you suggest flying pig to me??