I believe Three Oaks has been cancelled. I do not think it has been replaced. Next meeting is coming Mon at 6PM at Nicolleti's I think -- and we probably ought to discuss Grand Prix races there. Occasionally someone will run before the race at Chancellor's Run Pk -- I wouldn't mind running before the meeting up & down rt 235. Interested Joe? MTA -- CBRC newsletter published today and Vic's Letter from President says: We’re also planning on a race in Greenwell on October 18th to replace the Three Oaks 5K and keep a Grand Prix event, and we’re still not sure if it’ll be just a club event or a full race, but the latter is what I’m hoping for. If you’re interested in volunteering to make this race on the 18th a reality, let me know. We’re looking for good ideas.

Assuming your 10-miler training doesn't involve much in the way of speed, then it will actually make a very nice base of mileage to lead you into a few speed workouts during October/November so that you could have a potentially great Jingle Bell run. I think I will also do the 10-miler. I won't make any goal time for myself until September is over, though. If the CBRC does end up scheduling a race for the weekend after the 10-miler, then that will make me feel pressured to run both races for Grand Prix points and I'm a little concerned with doing that much racing. More than likely, though, my 10-miler will be less of a race and more of a hard training run. I always feel rough after a race, but I'm beginning to think that's because I don't rest properly due to the awards ceremony and the sometimes long drives home. Some of my training runs are just as hard, but [almost] never cause such a recovery hurdle. I'm looking at two 5ks in Calvert County at the end of September, except neither is part of the Grand Prix, so I'm thinking I will skip out on the Pet Day 5k to consider making the Towson race. There's the off-chance the Grand Prix may change to include this, though I'm not sure a race with pets is a good one to include in the series. I should be able to do the 10-miler in Piney Point on on October 12th. I'm a little concerned with the Jingle Bell race being the first week of December. I will likely do at least one race the week of Thanksgiving, which gives me 7-10 days to recover before what will likely be my last race of the year. I still plan to do these races, but am not sure how I'll approach each. Really, what I need to do is focus on my next couple of races. It's looking like I should set my sights on doing a decent 5k on September 21st and a decent 10-miler on October 12th. It's just eerie that my first 3 races of the year will be all different distances without a time to improve upon.

A 2:15:00 10 miler mean a 13:30/mi average pace. I don't know if Joe didn't put in maximum effort at Hospice in order to run with Billy (at the very least, they were detered by intersection traffic), but he still averaged a 13:17/mi pace in that race. Joe: The point is to run faster than you did at Hospice for this 10 miler. I'm not sure if Alden intends to run the race at TU on 9/21, given his recent aspirations to complete the Baltimore Marathon on 10/11. I'll throw it out to him, though. Joe: Val and I can provide a comfy air mattress for the night before the race, if you ultimately decide to come up for it.

A pace of 6:26/mi was required to achieve 19:59. I'd say there's a fairly considerable difference between that and 7:15/mi, but as a slightly more conservative goal perhaps I'll say 7:30/mi for the 10-miler, which would put me at 1:15:00. Wait, Alden running a marathon on 10/11?? That aspiration is rather .... premature (LUDICROUS)? I hope he runs it very, very slowly.

I think you just made an excellent case for you to run the full marathon on 10/11, too! The two of you could run abreast all the way through. Actually, I would suggest that Alden run the Marine Core Marathon with Adubb and Perry rather than the Baltimore, as it would give him at least a couple more weeks to train, but I imagine that race filled up long ago.

Considering Adubb's 10-mile split was about 1:17, I would hope your time is several minutes lower than that, DR, or else you're cruising for a bruising the next time you see Adubb. There had better not be any excuses this Thanksgiving! I'm starting to wonder if we'll have a chance for a big race with a bunch of us or not. The Jingle Bell race so far seems to have the best calendar date. I'd recommend the Towson race, except it may be disruptive to the training some are doing for their particular races.

Storm effects: Pax Relay Tri has been postponed a week (from Sep 6 to Sep 13). Hughesville10K & 5K race (http://hughesvillerunningclub.com/) has been postponed (date not revealed). Indian Head 100 (bike ride of 16,29,63, or 100mi) of Sep 7 has apparently not been postponed (http://ohbike.org/century/).