2020 Marathon Training and relevant COVID 19 discussion echo chamber (Read 700 times)

minmalS


Stotan Disciple

    The floor is yours Cal just keep going.. I have never seen someone so fascinated with my every word.

    In the old RWOL forum I often had you blocked. so i didnt see you or hear your post. I have no interest in you geez now I understand safe spaces.

    Your fascination with me is way too creepy.

    Thinking should be done first, before training begins.

    CalBears


      The floor is yours Cal just keep going.. I have never seen someone so fascinated with my every word.

      In the old RWOL forum I often had you blocked. so i didnt see you or hear your post. I have no interest in you geez now I understand safe spaces.

      Your fascination with me is way too creepy.

       

      I was never in doubt that your little ego is HUGE - continue believing that other people are fascinated by you if it makes you sleep better at night... What a joke 

      paces PRs - 5K - 5:48  /  10K - 6:05  /  HM - 6:14  /  FM - 6:26 per mile

      Running Problem


      Problem Child

         

        Not sure what you mean but running sub 3 in 50-54 age bracket is not a big deal - at relatively small CIM marathon I ran 2:59:38 and was 25th. Sub 3 at 55-59 AG would place me 14th and in 60-64 AG sub 3 would bring you just 2nd AG Smile I am pretty sure mikeymike knows about it better than me. I started running late, so, I ran sub 3 in 40s, in 50s (will definitely run sub 3 in 55-59 AG as I am 55 for the next CIM and 2021 Boston), not sure about 60s, of course - too far and too unpredictable at this point of life.

         

        What I MEAN was you've run sub 3 in your 50s so you might know what it takes. Top 14....I could see you actually being top 10 in your 60s and you'd probably still be on my heels the whole time making my accomplishments seem so much easier because I'm so young. 

        Many of us aren't sure what the hell point you are trying to make and no matter how we guess, it always seems to be something else. Which usually means a person is doing it on purpose.

        VDOT 53.37 

        5k18:xx | Marathon 2:55:22

        CalBears


           

          What I MEAN was you've run sub 3 in your 50s so you might know what it takes. Top 14....I could see you actually being top 10 in your 60s and you'd probably still be on my heels the whole time making my accomplishments seem so much easier because I'm so young. 

           

          First sub-3 was the hardest for me - having confidence of being a sub-3 helped running other marathons tremendously. No, I was 25th this year at CIM - which was pretty discouraging - I didn't expect so many old farts at a relatively small race. In 2015 CIM though, when I had my PR race, I was 3rd AG, but I believe since then the field vastly improved - if I had ran my PR time this year, I would only be 9th. It will be interesting to see what kind of motivation you have for improving for the next few years 

           

          Next AG is coming for me this year, but, even if I am optimistic and let's say I run 2:55 at CIM 2020, this year results show that it would only bring me 9th place - so many old fast dudes...

          paces PRs - 5K - 5:48  /  10K - 6:05  /  HM - 6:14  /  FM - 6:26 per mile

          Mikkey


          Mmmm Bop

             

            Is that OSR race sanctioned, or just a bunch of runners blocking the street? Caution do not try this at home. Amateur hobby joggers on an open road.

             

            That race is outrageous and what exactly was the health and safety officer thinking? I wouldn’t have allowed it, unless they were all wearing motorcycle helmets, full body armour and steel toe cap boots.

             

            Sub 3 over 50?  Maybe it helps if you started running late and have less miles on the clock. 🤔

            5k - 17:53 (4/19)   10k - 37:53 (11/18)   Half - 1:23:18 (4/19)   Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)

            runnerswhirled


              I have never seen someone so fascinated with my every word.

               

               

              except you of course

              mikeymike


                Hold up so one of you RWOL'ers has a burner account on here?

                Runners run

                Mikkey


                Mmmm Bop

                  I have never seen someone so fascinated with my every word.

                   

                   

                  except you of course

                   

                  And who are you?  A sad fuck who only posts under a troll name.

                  5k - 17:53 (4/19)   10k - 37:53 (11/18)   Half - 1:23:18 (4/19)   Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)

                  dpschumacher


                  3 months til Masters

                    Hey all.  Been a busy two weeks.  Lots of work, caring for the kid and pregnant wife.  Mostly 4:50 am runs or 8:00 pm runs.  The workouts the last two weeks have been really easy, which makes me feel like my training is going well.  On the whole easy pace thing.  Granted it matters what your resting (44) and max HR (190ish) are...but my 7 min mile treadmills my HR average is in the 130-136 most days on 4 to 11 miles.  Seems reasonable effort wise, but welcome to feed back.  If you are looking at workouts on my log note that the paces via garmin (7 min pace often shoes up at 6:50 and 5:50 pace shoes up as 6:31....IDK) are usually off, but my notes are correct.  I'll finally read the last two weeks of conversation since I finally have a free night.  Prepare for a comment storm....

                     

                    Last week 84.5 miles....this week 80-81 miles after my 11 miler tomorrow.

                     

                    M 13-Jan 9 1:03:05 (w/ 6x 100m strides during one of the runs) 8pm
                        4.07 0:27:54 Tread 5 am
                    Tu 14-Jan 10.53 1:09:41 2 x 2mi @ 6:00/mi w/ 0.5mi recovery (3mi w/u & 3mi c/d)
                    W 15-Jan 9.01 1:02:37 9 Easy (w/ 6x 100m strides during one of the runs)
                    Th 16-Jan 8 0:52:53 4mi tempo @ 6:15/mi (2mi w/u & 2mi c/d)
                    F 17-Jan 6 0:42:13 6:30 pm tread (tight, warm burn in IT band)
                        4 0:28:13 lunch treadmill
                    Sa 18-Jan 16 1:55:23 Collegeville run in 25 degrees, mildly windy at parts
                    Su 19-Jan 17 1:59:20 12 mile (1:23:43) and 5 mile (35:37) to catch up on miles and mourn packer loss
                    M 20-Jan 4 0:28:01 6 pm tread
                        9 1:03:12 8 am treadmill with striders
                    Tu 21-Jan 11.01 1:10:16 9 x 1km @ 5:49/mi w/ 0.25mi recovery (2mi w/u &1.4 c/d to 11mi total) miscounted and ran 1 extra. This felt like a moderate effort but very in control and no big deal.
                    W 22-Jan 9 1:02:49 9 Easy (w/ 6x 100m strides during one of the runs)
                    Th 23-Jan 9 0:59:04 5mi tempo @ 6:15/mi (2mi w/u & 2mi c/d)
                    F 24-Jan 8.6 1:00:01 9 & 4 Easy Double
                        4.46 0:31:17 Outside on the frontage road
                    Sa 25-Jan 14.01 1:39:25 Collegeville run felt pretty easy
                    Su 26-Jan 11   Going to run outside tomorrow morning

                    2023 Goals

                    Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18

                    10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)

                    5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)

                    Sub 1:16 Half Marathon  City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)

                    Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)

                     

                    2024 Goals

                    Sub 2:37 Marathon

                    Sub 1:15 Half

                    Sub 34 10k

                    Sub 16 5k

                     

                     

                    Trent


                    Good Bad & The Monkey

                      How long did it take to create that table?

                      dpschumacher


                      3 months til Masters

                        Just copy and paste from my training plan which is a google doc.

                         

                        How long did it take to create that table?

                         

                         

                        • Keen Nice week with the 2:13 is a long time to be out there. I try to keep my runs under 2 hours as much as possible.  I usually only do a couple of runs over 2 hours in a marathon cycle.
                        • Fishyone nice week. I find doubling is a nice way to get in more mid week miles if you have the time.
                        • JT- Yea fully jumping back in can be rough.  When I restarted a build I was dead man walking for a while even though my mileage was lower after my peak race.
                        • Katie-welcome to the wonderful world of running again.
                        • Brewing-Have you every used arm warmers? A decent pair are not super expensive and I just roll them down to my wrist if I get too warm and back up when needed.
                        • Nimmals-I really want to do a OSR race someday. I hear about them all the time on podcasts
                        • Calbears-trails expose all sort of lateral and muscle weaknesses. I have been mostly on the treadmill but when I go run in the snow and slush, I have all sort of weird soreness as the slipping, sliding and adjustments to avoid ice gets to me.
                        • DW-Late to the game, but nice job in Houston. I heard the final stretch back into the wind after being pretty sweaty really chilled some people.
                        • Cleaver…always good to knock that rust loose
                        • OMR-That elevation gain is B A N A N A S
                        • Andreas-Sub 3 is sub 3. Nice job.

                        2023 Goals

                        Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18

                        10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)

                        5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)

                        Sub 1:16 Half Marathon  City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)

                        Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)

                         

                        2024 Goals

                        Sub 2:37 Marathon

                        Sub 1:15 Half

                        Sub 34 10k

                        Sub 16 5k

                         

                         

                        Mikkey


                        Mmmm Bop

                           

                          • Andreas-Sub 3 is sub 3. Nice job.

                           

                          Absolutely, don’t let a race define you. Nice job, Andreas. 👍

                          5k - 17:53 (4/19)   10k - 37:53 (11/18)   Half - 1:23:18 (4/19)   Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)

                          CalBears


                             Absolutely, don’t let a race define you. Nice job, Andreas. 👍

                             

                            Absolutely, Andreas, even if you had ran sub 2, it would be a mistake to let that race define you!

                            paces PRs - 5K - 5:48  /  10K - 6:05  /  HM - 6:14  /  FM - 6:26 per mile

                            JMac11


                            RIP Milkman

                              This thread is brutal lately. Should I ask about the dead zone while watching TV just to really stir things up?

                               

                              DPS - I asked about screw shoes (and got some good advice!). Given you live in prime screw shoe territory, have you ever tried them?

                               

                              Also arm warmers are so key for me for winter running, as my core gets nice and warm but my forearms are frozen, so I like wearing a lighter long sleeve and arm warmers underneath. I’m not a prime candidate for a vest: never understood how anybody uses them. Do people really find their cores getting cold, but their arms are very hot?

                              5K: 16:37 (11/20)  |  10K: 34:49 (10/19)  |  HM: 1:14:57 (5/22)  |  FM: 2:36:31 (12/19) 

                               

                               

                              dpschumacher


                              3 months til Masters

                                Everyone here uses a thing called yaktrax on their shoes if they need extra grip.

                                 

                                Some slower runners I see in vests usually when it is wind any they have built up a good sweat and then turn into the wind and know they will get chilled. I always play my route to start into the wind, but with racing you can't always. I never see people running sub 20 min 5k in them but lots of 30 min + 5k people wearing them.

                                2023 Goals

                                Marathon Sub 2:37 (CIM) 2:41:18

                                10k Sub 35:00 (Victory 10k 34:19)

                                5k Sub 16:00 (Hot Dash 5k in March (16:48), Brian Kraft in May (16:20), Twilight 5000 in July and August (16:20/16:25 Both heat index 102-103F)

                                Sub 1:16 Half Marathon  City of Lakes Half Marathon 1:15:47)

                                Sub 56:30 in 10 mile (Twin Cities 10 mile, Canceled due to weather, 56:35 as a workout)

                                 

                                2024 Goals

                                Sub 2:37 Marathon

                                Sub 1:15 Half

                                Sub 34 10k

                                Sub 16 5k