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Shamrock Marathon - Virginia Beach - RR (Read 346 times)


Hill Runner

    2008 Shamrock Marathon - Virginia Beach, VA After really enjoying my first marathon this past December and NOT breaking 4 hours, I had some unsettled business... It seems like I ran a Dualathlon with over 860 miles driving and 26.2 miles running this past Saturday & Sunday.. I left early Saturday morning for VA Beach and it took about 6 hours to get there, ran the race in the morning, partied a little with the Hoovies and Dennis' family then got right back in my car & drove 6 hours home...whew! First let me say that this is a great marathon with a lot of free goodies - a great long sleeve tech tee shirt, great looking hat, very useful backpack, Goody bag with lots of stuff to eat, FREE Murphy's stew and FREE Yuengling Beer! (I think that's how it's spelled) I can't imagine wanting anything more than out of a marathon event. On the downside...Porta Potties were woefully lacking ( I had to "Go" right before the Start but but I couldn't find a Porta-Potty available so I held it until mile 20 and used a big tree for cover ).The parking was rough as the Half started an hour before and the Marathoners had slim pickings when they arrived for the 8:00AM Start( I did happen to luck out and found a great spot after driving around for about 20 minutes ). My official time and my running this was at this point is unofficial...My name and Bib number are nowhere to be found on the official results ( I know what I ran so thats what that really matters to me ). I have emailed the race officials and timing chip company to try and get this resolved. When I arrived on Saturday my throat was feeling funny and I didn't feel very well. I had a very restless night's sleep and was woken up by a cold wind-driven rain outside my motel window at 4:30AM. On the Plus side, the room was very clean & comfortable, I had free internet access and it was cheap! In a strange turn of events my nasal drip subsided and the rain stopped by about 6:30AM - although it was still winday and raw all day. Things were starting to look a little better. Fashion Report.....It was a tough call because of the wind and the "raw" feel of the day but I decided on just a Speed Yellow Target tech tee shirt and Charcoal Target shorts, NO gloves, Power socks, blue & white Saucony Hurricane 8's & my green buff for St. Patty's Day. Upon arriving at the Start line area I was standing out like a "sore thumb" because almost everyone seemed to be bundled up except for me just a very small handful of other nuts like myself. My #1 goal was to break 4 hours which eluded me in December and my secret goal would be to actually BQ. You couldn't ask for a flatter course to run on. Although I was cold at the start, after the first couple of miles it really wasn't a factor for me. It wasn't so much that the temperatures were cold but the whipping wind, no sun and damp ocean air just made it feel that way. I felt like I made the right decision in dressing that morning because about a mile or two into the run, everyone seemed to be overdressed. The big factor in this race was the wind. Since my secret but unrealistic goal was to BQ, in the back of my mind I knew that I had to run an 8:35 pace for the whole race. I was running an 8:30 pace through the half and felt pretty good. I got to thinking that it might be possible at that point, but in realtity I simply do not have enough long runs in my 2 1/2 years of training for it to be a reality ( I've only run a 20+ mile distance run four times in total EVER - including this marathon ). It wasn't going to happen today. The course is sort of like an elongated figure 8 where you're kind of running with the wind at your back or heading into it. Living in the heart of NASCAR country, I've learned a little about drafting. Heading up the boardwalk I tried to stay at the back of a pack of runners to take advantage of this and it did help a little but at other times I was just bearing the full force of the north winds. Around mile 13 I was still averaging an 8:30 pace but by mile 19 it had slowed to a 8:50 pace...(there goes the BQ). Just as I was looking down at my Garmin, I heard a throng of runners behind me...it was the 3:50 pace group. I had no idea that I was running in front of them at mile 19. I heard the pacer calling out to everyone..." If you guys made it this far at this point there's no reason that you can't bring it home"......then I heard him say..." of course, if you're here because you went out too fast & passed me somewhere back there, then you probably won't be running with us when we come in". I hope he wasn't referencing me....oops! I still tried to stay with them but what he said seemed to cast doubt with my confidence. At that point also there was a girl running in front of me who all of a sudden slowed down and stopped then when I turned around she was on the pavement with some guy attending to her. I knew that there was nothing else that I could do but to run up ahead and alert anyone for help. About a minuteor two later I heard the rescue EMS heading over there. I think that incident put a little fear into me about running too hard and I backed off a little both physically and psychologically. Anyway after all was done, the 3:50 pace group was nowhere in sight. The last 6 miles were tough as expected and I slowed considerably, sometimes walking a little. I have a pretty high MHR but after seeing what happened to that girl, there was now a bit of fear lurking at the back of my mind. MIles 20 through to the finish were tough. As I started mile 26 I knew that a sub-4:00 was going to be very close. I saw the 4:00 pace group up ahead of me and had my eyes focused on the clock at the finish line. There was a girl running in just front of me trying to close-in on the 4 hour pace group also. As I looked up at the clock I had about 10-15 seconds left to cross the mat. I dug VERY hard, passed the girl by a couple of footsteps and came in just as it read 3:59:59. Of course that was Gun Time so my chip time should have been at least 3:59:00 or better. I had PR'd and achieved my initial goal of under 4 hours! Footnote: When I checked the website results there is no listing for my name or Bib #. I sent emails to the race director and chip timing company to find out why I'm not listed in the results...Sad . I went through so much to make this race happen for me this weekend and there's no official record of my time...Sad . Hopefully they will find the error but I know what I ran and that's all that really matters even if this never gets settled. For what it's worth there's someone on the RunnersWorld Forum who was is saying that they were listed as DNF when they DID finished the race...grrrr! As soon as I emerged from the finish gate I heard someone call my name...It was CHoovie and her husband, Jim. Since I had checked out of the motel in the morning, all my stuff, including my cell phone and camera were in my car. They were nice enough to walk to my car with me to get my stuff and a jacket. My final push to the finish line took a lot out of me and I was exhaused, cold and shivering. I felt better once inside the tent where I called Dennis on the cell phone and we all met up inside the party tent. The band was great and I really enjoyed a little beer but driving 6 hours home was on my mind and I needed to get to the warmth of my car to start feeling better. Actually, I feel better today than I did the day after my first marathon last December. I must be getting used to this! It was great to actually meet everyone and to see that everyone was reallly so nice in person. Cheryl & Jim, you guys ran a great race and Dennis, you blew my away with your huge PR, great job guys! As I am writing this I just received an email from Lin-Mark the timing chip company....they found me....and the news is better than expected...WooHoo! Final Chip time: 3:56:36 16/69 for my AG 55-59 562/1413 Male An 11.5 minute PR for me.....11 minutes & 36 Seconds from a BQ...almost there....Wink I'm coming back here next year to finish what I started 2 1/2 years ago..... Wink Photobucket The band playing inside the party tent Photobucket Convention Center showing the flags flying in the wind. Photobucket My trusty Transportation at the beach. Photobucket The boardwalk at VA Beach Photobucket King Neptune at the Finish Line. Photobucket Me, Cheryl & Jim Photobucket Jim, Cheryl, Me & Dennis

    Upcoming Races:

    Boston Marathon, Boston,MA 04/15/13
    Grandfather Mountain Marathon,Boone NC 07/14/13
    Thunder Road Marathon, Charlotte NC 11/13

    PJH


      Congrats again, Peter, on a great race, PR and race report! You certainly deserved your sub-4 hour time. That BQ is not far off! When you have time to digest everything over the next few weeks, I'd really be interested in hearing what you learned this time round (with your training program, the race and everything) and what you'll do differently next time. Btw - "wind" is the one thing I dread in any race ... always tough. Congrats again on a great accomplishment. PJ
        Great Race, Peter, and RR! Great photos, too! Those last 6 miles are always tough. My mind does exactly the same thing...extremely hard psych wise to push through that doubt in your mind...well done! And then to drive all those hours home...that would have killed me and I love to drive! Fran
          Nice marathon, Peter. The conditions could have been better but you still got that sub 4 hours with minutes to spare. Congrats on your PR. TomS
          SteveP


            You're making me want to go back to Virginia Beach!!!!!! It's a greta place and they have races!!!! I still do not understand how, in a chipped timed race, an individual's results are lost. You got a PR dude!!!!! Sweet......

            SteveP

              Congratulations Peter and great racing! An 11 minute PR is just wonderful and while I am sorry you had to go through some frustration to get the official news---what a happy surprise! I think your marathon times are going to keep coming down if you keep training as you do---hold on to that BQ dream. Thanks for the super report, complete with photos and smiles with friends. CNYrunner
                2008 Shamrock Marathon - Virginia Beach, VA The last 6 miles were tough as expected and I slowed considerably, sometimes walking a little. I have a pretty high MHR but after seeing what happened to that girl, there was now a bit of fear lurking at the back of my mind. MIles 20 through to the finish were tough. As I started mile 26 I knew that a sub-4:00 was going to be very close. I saw the 4:00 pace group up ahead of me and had my eyes focused on the clock at the finish line. There was a girl running in just front of me trying to close-in on the 4 hour pace group also. As I looked up at the clock I had about 10-15 seconds left to cross the mat. I dug VERY hard, passed the girl by a couple of footsteps and came in just as it read 3:59:59. Of course that was Gun Time so my chip time should have been at least 3:59:00 or better. I had PR'd and achieved my initial goal of under 4 hours! Final Chip time: 3:56:36 16/69 for my AG 55-59 562/1413 Male An 11.5 minute PR for me.....11 minutes & 36 Seconds from a BQ...almost there....Wink I'm coming back here next year to finish what I started 2 1/2 years ago..... Wink
                You dug deep at the end...and after a gutsy pace throughout. Great race! 11.5 minute PR has got to leave you feeling good! and what a good feeling it must have been to have Choovie, her husband, and Dennis waiting for you. The guts and determination (not to mention great training) got you this far.....I love your last statement, "I'm coming back here next year to finish what I started 2 1/2 years ago." You're gonna do it Peter! Hope that girl is OK Pics were great.
                Quit being so damn serious! When we change the way we look at things, the things we look at change. "Ya just gotta let it go." OM
                  What a great race, Peter, and I'm especially glad that they found your chip results. Your time makes me envious: 3:59 would be a BQ for me at age 61. But looking at where you are right now and how far and fast you've come, I think I can see a BQ in your future! Reading about Virginia Beach also makes me wonder how Meg (jdmom) is doing. Anyone ever hear from her?

                  Doug, runnin' cycling in Rochester, MI

                  "Think blue, count two, and look for a red shoe"


                  Marathon Maniac #957

                    Peter - congratulations on your huge PR! I can hardly believe that you have only run a 20+ mile distance 4 times ever - you did a GREAT job, and with a few more LRs I'm sure a BQ is in the bag for you.

                    Life is a headlong rush into the unknown. We can hunker down and hope nothing hits us or we can stand tall, lean into the wind and say, "Bring it on, darlin', and don't be stingy with the jalapenos."

                      Nice race Peter! An 11.5 minute PR is a lot. And running 8:30's for somewhere between 13 and 19 miles is very impressive. You'll get that BQ soon enough. Bill

                      "Some are the strong, silent type. You can't put your finger on exactly what it is they bring to the table until you run without them and then you realize that their steadiness fills a hole that leaks energy in their absence." - Kristin Armstrong

                        great job Peter!! you ran an incredible race and an 11minute+ PR is amazing!! so glad they found you!!

                        denise


                        i'm lovin' it... MM#1949

                          Great race Peter! You really hammered that one in the winds. I'm sure all that hill running helped you push through the wind so well. It's so exciting that you did even better than expected and burried that 4 hr mark.. even with a potty break at mile 20! Nice you could meet up with Dennis and Choove and MrC. I'll bet that beer tasted good! Great RR and pics. Steve

                          Perch's Profile "I don't know if running adds years to your life, but it definitely adds life to your years." - Jim Fixx "The secret is to make in your mind possible what was not possible before. The secret is to make easy what was difficult, instead to make difficult what really is easy." - Coach Renato Canova

                            You know, you only ran that first marathon 3 or 4 months ago, and have already shaved 11 minutes off. I really think (seeing as I have so much experience with marathons Wink ) that you WILL BQ someday with the right training plan and no injuries. Glad they found your number and time. I am always surprised how long it takes to cross the mat. It was nice to see the pictures of everyone and the beach. The picture of the flags flapping in the wind made me shudder!

                            "During a marathon, I run about two-thirds of the time. That's plenty." - Margaret Davis, 85 Ed Whitlock regarding his 2:54:48 marathon at age 73, "That was a good day. It was never a struggle."


                            The Jogger

                              Peter, what a great report, you ran a fantastic, safe race and amazing PB. Well Done Roy Love the pics, great to see the others................
                                Very nice, Peter An 11.5 minute PR. Now that's what I call progress... Congratulations and keep up the good work.
                                Age 60 plus best times: 5k 19:00, 10k 38:35, 10m 1:05:30, HM 1:24:09, 30k 2:04:33
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