Twocat, yes I always hear it's something that teenagers go through and I remember plenty of "down" days myself. But his "downs" are serious and don't "feel" right to me. I was very glad we got him counseling, some very informal one-on-one sessions with a social worker who gave him lots of insight into why he might be feeling the way he does and how to take responsibility for your feelings/moods, etc. I think it really helped, and most of all it helped DS deal with his dad and some social situations that were difficult. So, it was good to do. Also, with the history of depression in my family and what I see in DH's family... I didn't want to just hope it went away. I childhood friend of mine lost her son to suicide last year and she told me "parents who ignore the signs in their children end up burying them..." I didn't want to go there... Ok, all the sad talk was yesterday, so I'm done now. (other than to send big hugs to Nono and her family) Larry, hope you can be a loser too! It was hard to be up a couple of pounds after that amazing dinner Thursday night, but hey, I tell myself I just need it for my long runs this weekend! Holly, I'm just amazed at how you can go to the gym, what is it all week now? and not have anyone say anything to you! Wow... that's really some sort of management plan they have going there. I think you should keep it up as long as you can! And if anyone says anything to you, just say "yeah I'm here to start my 30 day free trial..." Sort of cloudy and sprinkly this morning. We had such a busy week the whole crew is still sleeping... well I guess just DH and DS2 and the dog. DS1 got up early for soccer practice and I'm finishing up coffee cup #1... I have 9 miles scheduled today, might make it 10 just cuz that's the route I want to do. I have 19 tomorrow... and not sure I'm ready for it but we'll see how far I get. Garden work on tap this weekend, it's loving the cool damp weather (except the beans....).

Nono is obviously a Mets fan Lat night was painful to watch, even though Beckett did look pretty impressive. Aamos--I think you may have to stand in line along with most of Red Sox nation to to get that boot in! Twocat--since I'm follically challenged, Kevin

Taking a break as the Yankees get on the scoreboard, who needs to see that, and ARod hammering the Monster, next comes the pacing. LOL at "follically challenged" --at least it got me to lighten up! back to Fenway... grins, A

Think I'll just rest today and walk in the morning. Back was hurting a bit last night. Twocats -- the "883" stands for my first Harley...it was a black Sportster 883. Now I have a bright yellow Harley Hugger. Need to get a pic of us and post.

Back from 10 miles on rolling hills (and one steep one!), 8:15 avg pace. Felt sort of muggy when I started out but the humidity was "only" 70%... for us that's pretty high but I know for some of you that would be delightful. Still, pretty much IRC after being cool and sprinkly this morning. Good run with miles 4, 5 and 8 at about HM pace. Mile splits: 8:15, 8:03, 8:49, 7:51, 7:55, 8:03, 8:19, 7:41, 8:54, 8:39 (You can sure tell where the ups and downs were!). I'd like to say my HM pace is about 7:50... not sure how long I could maintain that though. Last year's PR time was 8:01 average, which was right at what I was trying to maintain (well, goal was 8 even). This year I've picked this race as one of my "goal" races to PR... and seeing as how I haven't PR'd at anything this year except Boston... well I think it's time! Tallrunner sounds like a great trip with your girls. Enjoy... Now time to do some weeding and laundry and such... I have the rest of the day to putter around the house and yard. Love it.

Good Saturday evening everyone, I went for my fourth daybreak run of the week, 8.1 miles around the lake. After finishing that, came home and loaded up the bicycles for a 14.5 mile ride with youngest DD. Have a great weekend, Paul

nono, best wishes for your mom and dad. Twocat and Aamos, nice races. Nice long runs for maine, Peter, Dave, BC, evan, and maine. This morning, I did a 10K and will get to a report later today or tomorrow. A good day and good runs for all. TomS