Tramps, Nobody was "invading" KR That forum was only recently created ( 9-12-07) in response to me asking for it, so we are ALL new there. If anyone was made to feel uncomfortable by a few infantile people who didn't learn to share in the sandbox I am sorry and wish we mods had been more available but Millbot was attending a funeral and I was busy working. This place is really nice too. No idea about the stability either. I think it's a little early to decide personally. I joined here months ago to check out the log. I think wherever we go it's nice if we take part in their other forums as well, they are nice enough to have us we should participate and share our experience. I won't pick, I will probably bounce around until the time where I get a life in the evenings and have better things to do Barb

Both KR and this site has a number of items that make them attractive. Like wa5yom, it's where most of the Boomers go that's important. I still visit CR occasionally to read tselbs and darkhorse's posts. dh is especially amusing. However, I really can't take the multi-logins and other issues.

Tramps, I'm glad you started this thread - you make some really good points here. Hally, I know that kickrunner is a public forum, and everyone is supposed to be welcome, but every forum is really the people, not the published rules of the site. This as we know all started back in August when people began worrying about where Boomers should meet up if something went wrong with the takeover of Active.com, and so a Masters Forum was created at Kickrunners, by and for the CR group. I think a small group took a liking to the format and the small, intimate nature of the group (also I think made up predominately of PNWers who had already met in real life), and so began to spend more and more time there. No one can blame them for enjoying that new intimacy, especially with so many real-life friends involved. But I can't help feeling like I'm butting in there, when I know that the primary reason that group went there and stayed there was to get away from the large Boomer group. How can I feel comfortable bringing to them what they were running from - the crowd? We all know Active.com is not going to work out. Most of us agree that we don't have time to give to more than one site. What we need to decide, if we want to keep most of this great community together, is whether we are going to move here or over to kickrunner. If I could make a wish, it would be that all those who were posting at CR as of the Active.com takeover move here as a group, leaving the established kickrunner group uninvaded. Like Dg9 said, everyone take hands and 1, 2, 3, JUMP. If only I had those Ruby Slippers...I thought they were around here somewhere. But like you guys have said, I value the people more than the site, so I will go where most of the group goes. Vista - good idea, but I'm not sure you have to wait until New Year's. I think the Active.com site is not going to last that long even. We all have a little time off work over the next few days. It will be a relief when this is finally ironed out. Let me just say that I love this group, you fabulous people have made me laugh, made me cry, and inspired me on a daily basis. Thank you.

Hi Guys! I too am feeling very lost and unwelcome at most sites. I agree that KR is a bit difficult to be welcomed into. I am not at all interested in staying with Active. So far this site is the easies to navigate - easy to read, and easy to find the posts! I think I am going to stick around here for awhile and see how it all plays out! Although I don't get a chance to post every day, I do read every day. When I do post I sure do like feeling welcome! C-mom

I'm starting to think this may be my new online running home. I like the clean attractive interface very much. Enough Boomers are already here to make this site feel like a viable social experience to me. That said, I mourn for the demise of Boomers & Beyond on coolrunning.com. I hoped that group and that feeling could be preserved intact on active.com. Yesterday I suddenly realized that probably wasn't going to happen, and it was a blow to me. I won't blame anyone for whatever choice he or she makes. We all should do what feels comfortable for us. I'll say this: yesterday and today, when I've been posting and reading here, is the first time in a while that I've felt excited to go online. I diidn't feel that way at active.com. Dark Horse

Ilene, I was hoping we could all pack our tents and cross the desert together, as one tribe. That way, if it's a really big desert and things get bad, we could kill and eat the weaker members of the tribe. Dark Horse

Getting sustinence from some of these scrawy long distance runners will be tough. We will need everyone we can muster after all.