2022 Advanced Racing Thread (Read 496 times)

Marky_Mark_17


    Mark- I felt a little injured by your comment...I just broke out my rat terrier's winter wardrobe which include many sweaters including an "ugly christmas" sweater.  She's 15 pounds of fury and tries to prove it by fighting rottwielers and pitbulls on every walk.

     

     

    I grew up with German Shepherds so I will freely admit that my views on this are probably quite biased towards large long-haired breeds.

     

    (by this I mean that we had German Shepherds in my house when I was growing up, not that I was actually raised by German Shepherds lol)

    3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

    10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

    * Net downhill course

    Last race: Coatesville HM, 11 Feb, 3rd overall, course PB (1:17:24)

    Up next: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, course PB

    "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

    Fishyone


       

      I grew up with German Shepherds so I will freely admit that my views on this are probably quite biased towards large long-haired breeds.

       

      (by this I mean that we had German Shepherds in my house when I was growing up, not that I was actually raised by German Shepherds lol)

      Lol. That would have explained your desire to RUN fast!  I always had big dogs before my current 2. My other is a puggle.  Never say never but I may have become a small dog person.  No company on the runs however.

      5K 18:36 (2023), 10K 39:40 (2022), 1/2 1:24:37 (2023), full 2:58:36 (2015) 

      Mikkey


      Mmmm Bop

         

         

        Also, Tyson looks a lot like he wants to take that tree down.

         

        Yep, he’s definitely up for it and capable of it! 

        5k - 17:53 (4/19)   10k - 37:53 (11/18)   Half - 1:23:18 (4/19)   Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)

           

          The Competitive Jerks over here and the Sanctimonious Waltons over there. Who ya got?

           

           

          Haha - actually found this quite funny (being a regular in the Waltons thread I can concur that we are indeed sanctimonious)

           

          Keen - Good luck in your new role as the thread Overlord. Thanks for your work this year, JMac.

           

          Here's to sub 3 for 2023!

          50+ age-group PBs:  Half Perish 1:24:24 (June '23 Road Race) - 10km 37:52 (2022 Local Road Champs) - Track 5km 18:49 (Aug '22) - Perish Run 3:17:42

          2024 Goals: Boston Perish Run Sub 3:15 - Road/Track 10km Sub 37:30 - 5km Sub 18:20

           

           

          OMR


            Buddy?

             

            i can't help but jump in here and share a saying that used to be fairly popular in these parts (the upper midwest)...

             

            "friends are friends, and pals are pals, but buddies sleep together."

             

            so...?!

             

            carry on.

            SteveChCh


            Hot Weather Complainer

              My week was pretty good - good speed session on Wednesday which felt pretty good.  I met with my new coach for the first time on Thursday and he said we won't be doing much work at marathon pace (he calls it the gray zone but will now be calling it the dead zone) so I changed the pace of my 2km blocks for Saturday to aerobic threshold.  I've got the first 3 weeks of his training plan coming up - some minor changes to my week but pretty similar to what I've been doing.  He's removed my Monday strides session - said it's pretty pointless since he wants to focus on some lactate threshold work before I head into the marathon block, but may be added back in when I'm doing more endurance work.

               

              My heart rate monitor must be coming in from Neptune because it may not arrive before the planned 5km race on new years eve.  If it doesn't I may need to borrow one or reschedule the race, because the point of it is to get a heart rate baseline.  I've also added some B races to my sig.  There seems to be some confusion on the online forums as to whether my watch is even compatible with it (Forerunner 35), although there's a youtube video showing how to pair them so surely it is.  I didn't think I got a budget watch but there seems to be missing features like downloading my workouts from Training Peaks on to the watch so I don't need to remember them.  Annoying.

               

              Anyway, my goal of 4000km for the year looks set to happen on Wednesday.

               

              Weekly for period: From: 12/12/2022 To 18/12/2022

              Date Name mi km Duration Avg/mi Avg/km Elevation Gain
              in m
              12/12 Warm up 0.33 0.54 00:03:17 09:57 06:05 0
              12/12 Easy pace 8.76 14.09 01:13:11 08:21 05:12 19
              12/12 Strides 0.76 1.22 00:06:08 08:04 05:02 0
              14/12 Warm up 0.34 0.54 00:03:20 09:48 06:10 0
              14/12 3 x 2km (T) with 2 min recoveries 9.97 16.04 01:18:18 07:51 04:53 11
              15/12 Recovery 5.55 8.92 00:54:38 09:51 06:07 11
              16/12 Warm up 0.34 0.55 00:03:27 10:09 06:16 0
              16/12 Easy pace 6.27 10.09 00:53:23 08:31 05:17 10
              16/12 Strides 0.71 1.15 00:06:11 08:43 05:23 0
              17/12 Warm up 0.34 0.54 00:03:26 10:06 06:21 0
              17/12 2 x (2km T, 1km E) 13.73 22.10 01:52:24 08:11 05:05 21
              18/12 Recovery 5.52 8.89 00:53:32 09:42 06:01 11

              Total distance: 84.67km

              5km: 18:34 11/23 │ 10km: 39:10 8/23 │ HM: 1:26:48 9/23 │ M: 3:34:49 6/23

               

              Upcoming Races:

              Motorway Half Marathon February 25, 2024

              Christchurch Marathon April 21, 2024

              Dunedin Half Marathon September 15, 2024

              Marky_Mark_17


                Anyway, my goal of 4000km for the year looks set to happen on Wednesday.

                 

                 

                I'll be interested to see if you beat me for the year.  I'm on 4,033km, the way things are going, you may just over take me! 

                3,000m: 9:07.7 (Nov-21) | 5,000m: 15:39 (Dec-19) | 10,000m: 32:34 (Mar-20)  

                10km: 33:15 (Sep-19) | HM: 1:09:41 (May-21)* | FM: 2:41:41 (Oct-20)

                * Net downhill course

                Last race: Coatesville HM, 11 Feb, 3rd overall, course PB (1:17:24)

                Up next: Maraetai HM, 10 Mar, course PB

                "CONSISTENCY IS KING"

                Mikkey


                Mmmm Bop

                   

                  But that's outside - not under a tree in the living room, right?

                  Oh well, I guess that's it for now. I'm not going to run a marathon this year anyway .

                   

                  Btw my dogs only wear a coat outside in the winter months!  A friend of ours knitted him the jumper and I took a photo to send to her as I thought it was a nice gesture. It’s good to know that there are dog experts on here incase I need some help with his training. 

                  5k - 17:53 (4/19)   10k - 37:53 (11/18)   Half - 1:23:18 (4/19)   Full - 2:50:43 (4/19)

                  flavio80


                  Intl. correspondent

                    Flammenwerfer

                    This is the flamethrower. Cat fighting shall be forbidden from this point on!

                     

                    Keen - makes sense, got to enjoy the moment a bit.
                    Also, I commend you on retaining the humble title of Commander now that you're going to be the supreme leader.

                     

                    me - Interesting week, I managed to run 2h10 for the long run, yet another conquest on my way back to fitness.

                    Weekly for period: From: 12/12/2022 To 12/18/2022

                    Date Name mi km Duration Avg/mi Avg/km Elevation Gain
                    in ft
                    12/13 70'E 8.37 13.47 01:10:00 08:22 05:12 384
                    12/14 25' Steady Pace avg 6:42/4:10 pace 7.24 11.64 00:55:00 07:36 04:44 302
                    12/15 70'E 8.86 14.26 01:09:54 07:53 04:54 538
                    12/17 10x (30s ON 30s OFF) avg 5:33/3:28 pace 5.22 8.40 00:41:51 08:01 04:59 226
                    12/18 2h10 long run - intentionally slowed down to go further 14.44 23.23 02:10:00 09:00 05:36 748

                    Total distance: 44.13mi

                     

                    And here's my 2022 in review:

                    My year started with a BANG, rather a negative BANG as I got covid and it was not the sniffles. I developed an annoying laringitis that left me mute for a few days. I didn't think it was smart to run with that, so I took 2 weeks off. But covid also sapped 100% of my muscular endurance, so I had to start back with meagre 3 or 4 km runs.

                    I raced a 5k on Feb 13th when in Brazil and I could barely break 20, though to be fair it was a very warm day approaching 80 degrees F at 6:30 am.

                    A week later on Feb 20th I raced a cross country race on yet another very hot day. The course was super fun though and it was very humbling to race it so out of shape.

                    Fast forward 3 months to May 8th and I raced a tune up half on yet again another warm day, but I still managed to run sub 1h30 which made me a bit happy to be back on the way to recovery.

                    I then jumped on a short training block for a 1500m race on June 18th. It was the national master champs and I couldn't miss it as the 1500m is by FAR my favorite race. Training went okay, though I ran a disappointing 5min02 after going out too fast the first 300.

                    I was also 3rd to last on this race which shows that the field was quite strong for the amateur scene.

                    I went back to the drawing board and hired a coach as at this point I felt like I was finally running around 50km per week (31miles) and it started to make sense to have a coach. The coach did great and I had an excellent performance at my next race. A very hilly 10k race on Sep 25th. I was thinking of running sub 42 on the days leading to the race with a dream goal of running sub 40 and guaranteeing sub elite placement on my target 10k race about 40 days later.

                    I ended up running just under 40 minutes and I was very elated post race. I told my coach I thought I would be in around 38:30  shape on the  flat and I went into my target 10k race on November 06th feeling very confident. So confident in fact that I was targeting my 10k PR, which by now was very very soft, of 38:12. The course ended up being long at 10200m so I said "screw it" and took the 10k GPS time as my time for this race, which was a 38:01, which is now my official 10k PR.

                    Going into the next year, I have no idea what's going to happen as life can work in mysterious ways, but I have a pipe dream to somehow get back to my old form of 1h22 half and challenge my other PRs. If I manage to do that the challenge will be to keep that form and jump into a marathon training block, trying for the 5th time to beat the marathon. So far I'm 0x4 against it.

                    PRs: 1500 4:54.1 2019 - 5K 17:53 2023 - 10K 37:55 2023 - HM 1:21:59 2021

                    Up next: no idea

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                    dktrotter


                    Dorothea

                       

                      Btw my dogs only wear a coat outside in the winter months!  A friend of ours knitted him the jumper and I took a photo to send to her as I thought it was a nice gesture. It’s good to know that there are dog experts on here incase I need some help with his training. 

                       

                      FTR, I thought Tyson looked sweet (though he really did have that look of mischief), and the photo for the friend is a nice gesture, Mikkey. It maybe became a target of opportunity in the given context it was posted. Btw, being a cat owner, I think the danger to the tree and the sweater would have been much higher with my cat ;-)

                      Qualifications: I like to run. In Florida. In the summer. At noon.  

                      Last race: Miami Half Marathon, Jan. 28. Not a race effort. An exciting, supported long run with friends and strangers and miserable conditions. 

                      dktrotter


                      Dorothea

                         

                        My heart rate monitor must be coming in from Neptune because it may not arrive before the planned 5km race on new years eve.  If it doesn't I may need to borrow one or reschedule the race, because the point of it is to get a heart rate baseline. 

                         

                        Great week, Steve and nice news about the training! Though annoying about the HRM. Hope it comes in time for your NYE race! And hopefully it's possible to borrow one, since I'm sure you're anxious to get that baseline and start training accordingly.

                        Qualifications: I like to run. In Florida. In the summer. At noon.  

                        Last race: Miami Half Marathon, Jan. 28. Not a race effort. An exciting, supported long run with friends and strangers and miserable conditions. 

                        dktrotter


                        Dorothea

                           

                          I ended up running just under 40 minutes and I was very elated post race. I told my coach I thought I would be in around 38:30  shape on the  flat and I went into my target 10k race on November 06th feeling very confident. So confident in fact that I was targeting my 10k PR, which by now was very very soft, of 38:12. The course ended up being long at 10200m so I said "screw it" and took the 10k GPS time as my time for this race, which was a 38:01, which is now my official 10k PR.

                          Going into the next year, I have no idea what's going to happen as life can work in mysterious ways, but I have a pipe dream to somehow get back to my old form of 1h22 half and challenge my other PRs. If I manage to do that the challenge will be to keep that form and jump into a marathon training block, trying for the 5th time to beat the marathon. So far I'm 0x4 against it.

                           

                          Sounds like a rough start to the year, Flavio, but a good week all things considered. Being able to race in the national masters championships is really cool, and a strong showing despite the probably enduring effects of the illnesses. Hope you have a much better start in 2023 and can beat the marathon! Though going 1:22 1/2 is pretty freaking impressive as well.

                           

                          I've been wondering about GPS versus course accuracy, and I was wondering what folks on here thought about that. I know a few people who take their GPS PRs as PRs, even on USATF certified courses. I guess it's fine if they then use that as their baseline to train harder... but unless a course really is measured long due to human error, wouldn't one adhere to the measured course time?

                          Qualifications: I like to run. In Florida. In the summer. At noon.  

                          Last race: Miami Half Marathon, Jan. 28. Not a race effort. An exciting, supported long run with friends and strangers and miserable conditions. 

                             

                            I've been wondering about GPS versus course accuracy, and I was wondering what folks on here thought about that. I know a few people who take their GPS PRs as PRs, even on USATF certified courses. I guess it's fine if they then use that as their baseline to train harder... but unless a course really is measured long due to human error, wouldn't one adhere to the measured course time?

                             

                            Well to each their own I guess, since we are all just hobbyjoggers. But for me, for a race, I edit my RA log entry to match the official race distance and time. That’s something you can do here, but not on Strava. I consider RA to be my log of record, and the PR list here to be my official one. There are a few exceptions where it was clear the course was measured or marked inaccurately; I leave those as is and check the box “exclude from PRs.”

                            Dave

                              Congrats Marky & Flavio on the 4000 km! Incidentally I just did the math and I project out to about 3950 km. Of course since I measure in miles, I haven’t been tracking this. I’d comment more but I’m now seeing we’re supposed to post some kind of year-end summary, so I’ll wait for that.

                              Dave

                              dktrotter


                              Dorothea

                                  I consider RA to be my log of record, and the PR list here to be my official one. There are a few exceptions where it was clear the course was measured or marked inaccurately; I leave those as is and check the box “exclude from PRs.”

                                Ditto

                                Qualifications: I like to run. In Florida. In the summer. At noon.  

                                Last race: Miami Half Marathon, Jan. 28. Not a race effort. An exciting, supported long run with friends and strangers and miserable conditions.