Sorry for the fly by. This is 80 miles from and near Byllllll's new place.

The good news is...I think that just maybeI've got a son.

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Well I've never had luck with pacers and have tried them three times. The one in Seattle took off so fast and charged up the hills but slacked off on the downhills. Drove me nuts. I finished about a minute ahead of the 3:50 pacer. In Carlsbad I stayed with the pacer for quite awhile but his pace just never felt right to me. Then I had a porta potty stop and never saw him again. But I finished just a couple minutes behind him. In Disney, the guy was nuts... charging through tiny openings in the crowd without any concern for where his group was. It was like he was trying to lose us. He also set a fast pace early on and lost a lot of his (large) crowd. This was the marathon where I forgot my chip, so I was derailed from his group by 5k anyway. But as I went along that race, I picked up (and passed) several of his original entourage that just couldn't keep up with the darting and dodging he seemed to like doing.

But then again, I think I recall Opie paced his group to a rock solid finish right on time. So obviously, they all vary.

Wouldn't that be fun if some of Mary's puppies were neighbors of Tammy now? Or, ok, close to being neighbors.

SteveP, that guy is out there giving Batman a bad rep!!

Elliptical and abs/core stuff at lunch with DH, and I'm planning on running most of the way home tonight. But holy carp, it's cold out there! Cloudy and low 40's with a real chill in the air. It's not snowing though, so after reading Wildchild's post I'm grateful for that. But I do wish I'd brought my gloves!

The only time I started with a pace group was my PR California International.  CIM prides themselves of their pace groups.  Originally, Tim Tweitmeyer (A western states legend) was scheduled to be the 3:30 pacer I was a little disapointed when they shifted pacers around and I ended up with Rae Clark leading.  I didn't know how lucky I was.  Rey was a 25 year veteran  of CIM and a previous 24 hour and 100 mile US champion.  He held the pace steady,  with about 4 miles to go I was still feeling good so I picked it up a little.  I hit the wall hard at mile 26.  I was giving it everything I had but Ray and his group passed me like I was standing still,  I just couldn't hang on.  Rae's final time 3:29:59,   My final time,  3:30:08

The next year SR Lopez started next to Tim Tweitmeyer and his pace group.  Sr said that Tim went out WAY faster then he should have and burnt out lots of runners

And I still remember a hot hilly day at the Seattle Seafair marathon the year before Rock and Roll took over,  sometime around the middle of the race most of the aid stations had run out of cups.  I saw a pacer running by her self I asked her Are we on pace?  she very disgustedly answered How would I Know?

So IMHO pace groups can work but be ready to run your own race at any point.

Everything about my run after work was perfect, the weather, the way I felt, the numbers in my log here, the music (solarmix7), and the fact that with about 7 miles, this was my longest run in a long time!

Decided to test out the headlamp tonight. I figured better later than never... did 2.5 miles in my well-lit neighborhood, and barely needed the light at all. Though I suppose it was good for the oncoming cars, in that they could see me clearly.

Hi, peeps -

I found the pacer talk interesting.

OM - You're gonna do great at your relay.  Can you give us the web site?  Is it something we can follow on line?

Snow??  The snow level is suppose to drop around the mountains here tomorrow.  Guess I'll need an extra sock for my foot.

I kept it wrapped part of the time, but halfway through the day, it felt like it was on fire.  I had to unwrap it and stick it under the air conditioning on the floor.  It was pretty puffy by the time I got home.  Depending on how it looks in the a.m., I might stick with strength training, ice it and keep it elevated at work, then hopefully do the stationary bike thing after work.  TomW, I'm blaming this on the brats kids, as well.  Its sensitive in the area where I know it was injured.  Keeping fingers crossed it was mostly pressure from the swelling.  I'm on my 7th week of crutches.  By the time I get back to the doc, it will be over 9 weeks.  If he keeps me on them after that, well, I won't be responsible for my actions.

I know what I need - I need a punching bag.  Yeah, a punching bag with a picture of a crutch taped to it.  That would be SU-WEET!  A pipe dream, but SU-WEET!

I made it through today, though at times it was tough.  As my friend keeps telling me you can only take things one a time, but my brain can't help jumping 9, 10 steps ahead.  Things are going to get worse before they get better, but some of the emotionally harder stuff has been accomplished, including talk got my dad tonight.  Very cryptic, I know, but that's all I can do.

I continue to see mental and physical improvement with my husband.  At the end of all this madness, his sobriety is what matters the most.

Thanks for the ears.  And since it's late, I will bid you all Sweet Dreams -

I'll tack this on here so I don't mess up today's thread:

I just "thought" it was funny.

Love it, OM     Maybe they can help me finish my poem about the rhinoceros. I started it as a 4th grade assignment and it still sits unfinished in my sock drawer.

Really, Sally and Leslie have never met?  Does being separated at birth count?

I never got around to posting Wednesday's workout on here but I hope it's ok if I post it here today. 

We had been stuck in gray cloudy windy almost rainy mode for so long here in Albany that whenver the weather is nice and sunny and not nearly rainy, the temptation to up the amperage on an easy run is almost undeniable.  Such was the case yesterday (Wednesday) when I went out for an easy 6 miler at lunchtime, with the sun shining overhead, a comfortable breeze blowing, and temps in the mid 60's.  I was supposed to be holding back so that today's dress rehearsal for next Thursday's Workforce Challenge 3.5 miler could be run as a tempo run on relatively fresh legs.  Pace should have been in the low to middle 8's.  Splits wound up 8:05 / 7:50 / 7:52 / 7:35 / 7:35.  So I will be prepared to run today's workout on the race course at easy pace, or even slower, perhaps pacing one of the newbies around the beautiful but hilly course. It has been changed slightly since the last time I raced it three years ago, so I don't know whether hoping to go for a race and distance PR is going to be practical or not.  I'm a better runner now than I was then, but the course may be a tad tougher.  Pace on PR day was 7:03 and my 5k PR pace is 6:36, so it seems like it would be a no-brainer.  Never can tell.

bty