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It always amazed me that my MIL kept a 3/4 acre vegetable garden & some livestock -in addition to all the other work that goes into farming!! ...meant that I spent alot of Summer/Fall w/her canning & freezing.....good thing we had enough menfolk to run all the "big equipment"... I'm still vegging this am....(see: driving DH NUTS!) ..have track/speed drills this eve....however, Doug took Mairead out for an easy 3-ish @ 5am this morning....70* F/44% H....calling for mid 90's for the afternoon..Did I mention that he signed up to run Denver HM w/me?! .......hoping hurricane Dolly makes good westerly landfall (nothing against Brownsville!) & the jet stream is cooperative - will mean some much needed rain for us in a few days!! ....R2: Wanna join us in a little raindance? As for me, I carry Gatorade type mix & alternate w/water for long &/or hot runs...gotten rather attached to G2 for other heat hydration stuff - less intense than full strength Gatorade!....don't know whether I know the difference yet...still working on remembering to drink enough (not too much) while running!! ....still "test driving" different shot blocks/gu combos.....heard of the Margarita flavored ones from another thread - mentioned being used by someone who ran a higher temp marathon...haven't tried em yet.... having fun on this site https://www.onemoremilerunning.com/index.php?ccUser=

Got my rear outa bed this morn and got in a nice relatively cool 6 miler on my hill road then down a double track trail road. Ran easy for the most part with the last couple miles kinda on the slow end of my 10k pace, no real plan just what felt right. Lynda was mowing up a storm when I got back,trying to catch back up from harvest. We are game for the raindance, hope we can get something going with Colorado monsoon season. Congrats to Doug for signing up, he'll do great. Altenating between my coffee and a G2 as I speak.

Here's my chime-it's an individual thing mostly depending on how much you sweat. If your black shorts are white after a long run and you have a tendency to cramp up you're going to need more salt and electrolytes. A simple summary may be that if you still cramp after drinking your Gatorade or whatever then you need to start looking into supplements. This is Jack's area of expertise. He's a salty sweater and has his needs down to a science. We drink the Amino Vital Endurance formula and then he'll add two scoops of Ecaps powder (I think) for each 8 oz of drink. He also carries the Ecaps capsules and Succeed capsules and will take Succeed on the hour and Ecaps on the half hour (something like that). He has a hard time taking pills so was glad to find the powder. This is what works for him-I'm lucky in that I've never cramped before. I've dabbled with it a little and I'm sure Jack will give me something during my race this weekend but I won't notice it at all. Jack sweated off 10 pounds by mile 47 last weekend and he didn't mention anything about cramps. It's all individual and you may have to find out the hard way at a race or on your first really long run in hot humid weather if you need more than what's in your drink. Kelly

Thanks for the info Kelly and Leslie. I don't really cramp up at all, so far anyway. I sure sweat alot but I don't think it's overly salty. I do feel tired as heck when it's real hot and humid and I don't drink gatorade before and during my run.Yesterday for instance,was about 90* with high humidity.I downed a 24oz bottle about an hour before my run. I then went through another 24oz during a 9.4m ,1 1/2hr trail run. I try to comsume most of it during the first half of my run. I felt fine. One thing I notice though, is I don't have to pee during these runs. That makes me wonder if I'm hydrated enough.

Just checking in, havn't read any posts yet, and I'm dead tired after riding 1500 mi in two days to get home by Monday evening and back to work Tuesday. Ran a quick 4 yesterday and felt like hell, taking today off. All I want to do is get some sleep - must be all that sleeping on the ground and partying with friends Will hopefully get caught up with work and life and youse guys in the next few days here... Arla

Joe-if you're feeling fine then don't worry about the pee thing. Of course you're going to feel tired when it's real hot and hopefully better when it's cooler. I look at the whole fluid intake and pee thing as something to be delicately balanced in your body while you're running. If you're peeing a lot then maybe you're drinking too much and if you're racing then that's something that will slow you down. If you're drinking, not peeing and performing well then you've got a good balance going. If you're drinking, not peeing and not performing well then you've got problems and better figure it out quick Everyday is different so turn off the iPod every once in a while to tune into you and adjust accordingly. I have no idea if you listen to an iPod and I'm not criticizing if you or anyone does. Kelly

4 miles 70 deg humid, picked it up a bit at the end. We got a little shower last nite, enough to make the dryland corn unroll this morning. Have more small chances this week. Cleaning up equipment, irrigating and getting ready to haul corn again. Leslie what we do behind closed doors is nobodys business...... OH you said Hinky Nevermind

Morning folks! what is this, my 5th day of slacking off my schedule?! track w/o - speed drills last night...quickly forgot/lost focus w/my foot due to "oh! my achey butt!!" by the 6th lap, rear starting to loosen up, foot starting to tighten up Boot camp this am: 1 mile run w/u then 30 sec sets X 3: in the playground (as many as you can do in 30 secs, move to next "station" repeat all 3 X's) leg lifts, dips, rows, bicycles, weighted rope, toe reach, bicep curls, steps?, climbing wall stretches R2: glad some of it made it to you...couldn't tell by the radar if it was breaking up before or after you....should have a bit more on deck later today...**fingers & toes crossed**