Basketball!? I am angry at basketball. Has it always overlapped so much into BASEBALL? I love baseball. I'm not so fond of basketball (except when the r.s. or DS1 play). Aamos and D. I'm glad that you have each other and that D. is being cared for appropriately. I am in the waiting room with you. Aamos, we prayed the rosary this morning, the glorious mysteries. You both were blessed but, I feel blessed for the opportunity to pray, sometimes I forget. Thank you Aamos and D. As to whether or not this test or that should be done. I have a BSN but only worked in L&D. I took statistics in college, sorry to say but I am not a fan... (No offense TwoCat, somebody has to do stats, I'm just glad it's not me) One thing I've learned about statistics and this is purely subjective (shudder!)... they don't really help an individual. As much as one would hope, medicine is not an exact science where everyone is placed neatly in a category. Medicine is an art and a science. Sometimes a physician might just have a gut instinct to order a test. Perhaps the patient doesn't have all the risk factors but something nudges the doc... Case in point: My friend's sister died of breast cancer, so, sure, my friend had risk factors... but her doctor said, "Patty, this might seem like overkill but, I'd like you to have an MRI instead of a mammogram this year." Patty agreed and the MRI showed something suspicious the size of a grain of sand (would not have been picked up on a radiograph mammogram) The grain of sand was removed and proved to be a very aggressive estrogen-fed cancer. Patty opted for a bilateral oophorectomy (ovaries removed). Patty is cancer free. Sure, this is women's health and not cardiology. But I think that the question was about routine screening tests and if invasive cardio tests should be performed without symptoms. I think the physician pointed out earlier that these tests are NOT scheduled routinely because there are risk factors and the procedures are invasive. The tests are ordered when indicated. I guess I just think that we can't rely on statistics to treat individuals.

FWIW, I have a cousin that had a heart attack last spring. Similar story, he was assumed to be in good shape, ran 10K races occasionally. I think he is in his late 40's early 50's. One parent still living, the other lived to be in her eighties. No family history of CAD. No problems with his check-ups, cholesterol etc. He had a heart attack while working on some physical job around the house. I believe they put a stent in? We are not in a lot of contact, so I don't really know the whole story. LaVita - I enjoyed your post. Statistics tell us the probability of something happening in a large population. Every individual is unique. Know your risk factors, use your gut. I am certain I needlessly underwent an invasive test a few years ago only because my insurance would cover the procedure and the doctor wanted the business. I love doctors, just not this one. It did not seem to be really medically warranted, but I trusted his opinion. The procedure left me completely incapacited for a week. And then he still wanted to run some more tests....so I ran for the hills...

Just stopping in to see how Aamos and D are faring. It was great to see Amy's post while the surgery was underway. I am waiting in the Charlotte airport and with luck I'll be on the ground at Bradley airport in just a few hours. I think I'll hug my family extra hard when I get home. Amy, if you are checking back in, please know I am holding you and D in my heart and sending recovery strength your way each minute. We need your grins for a long time to come! Karin

I'm going to give DH a big hug tonight!! I worry about him because his dad had a heart attack at 39 and then developed diabetes. He made it to 72, longer than he expected. I ran 5.3 miles this afternoon WITHOUT my Garmin because I hadn't recharged it. Perfect weather again - 60 and overcast. My ankle started bothering me the last couple of miles. Now it's really sore when I lift up my foot to take a step. Is there anything I should do??

My ankle started bothering me the last couple of miles. Now it's really sore when I lift up my foot to take a step. Is there anything I should do??

Don't lift up your foot to take a step.

5 mi tonight with the babysitter -- really she's my running partner more than my babysitter anymore! Renee did 2 and then went home. We ran part of our night after handing the dog to Mr Nono up on the boardwalk. So funny how in the blink of an eye there's "season" and people and all the shops open. It wasn't very crowded so it was easy to run. Very fun.

--just back from the ICU--surgery went well, he was out of surgery by 2:30, the breathing tube was out at 7 pm, all signs and vitals are good and strong! He was able to talk with me, is alert, and not feeling a lot of pain yet (guessing the anesthesia and pain killers haven't worn off yet).

outstanding, Amy! We all wish him the very best and the quickest recovery...

Amy, WOW WOW WOW! So glad to hear Dan is recovering well. reading through this thread had me so worried, (and we are so lucky to have Doctor Dale here). Arf and I so look forward to seeing you and Dan and Frank, at future races, Dave