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LRB


     

    Why the heck would I want to do that?  and be told something I really don't want to hear, nah it's just something that was warning me to rest months ago and I never listened.

     

    What does Dr. Google say?

     

    YOU HAVE CONSULTED WITH DR. GOOGLE HAVEN'T YOU??

    LRB


       Tomorrow I'll go to my 5-yr-old nephew's soccer game.  Those are always entertaining.

       

      Yeah, and the games aren't bad either. lol

       

      Some of them parents take that stuff waaaaay too seriously.

      onemile


         

        The pace ain't easy...it's just a pace you can maintain for 26.2 miles.  Or if you are like me, it is a pace you can maintain for 21-22 miles.

         

        The hurt I am talking about is that last 4-5 miles. (or sometimes more)

        Little Blue


           

          Yeah, and the games aren't bad either. lol

           

          Some of them parents take that stuff waaaaay too seriously.

           

          Nah, these folks are pretty good.  And the kids are finally at an age where they're not totally distracted by bugs and random blades of grass. They were entirely too cute at age 3.

          LRB


             

            Are they more painful? I am not sure. It's a different kind of pain but I don't think it's necessarily lesser.

             

            Good catch J, I was actually grasping for a word there and came up empty.

             

            What I meant was a lot of the anxiety for the shorter races is due to the distress of race pace (whether real or imagined). With the marathon, that element is removed (for the most part). We pretty much know we can race at MP, the uncertainty is the last hour of the race, and there is no need worrying over that at all pre-race...generally speaking that is.

             

            So with that in mind, race anxiety should take a back seat where the marathon is concerned. Unless of course a person is prone to stress and/or anxiety. Does that make sense?

            onemile


               

              Good catch J, I was actually grasping for a word there and came up empty.

               

              What I meant was a lot of the anxiety for the shorter races is due to the distress of race pace (whether real or imagined). With the marathon, that element is removed (for the most part). We pretty much know we can race at MP, the uncertainty is the last hour of the race, and there is no need worrying over that at all pre-race...generally speaking that is.

               

              So with that in mind, race anxiety should take a back seat where the marathon is concerned. Unless of course a person is prone to stress and/or anxiety. Does that make sense?

               

              But I think there are more variables that can go wrong in a marathon and it is less forgiving to error.

              LRB


                 

                The hurt I am talking about is that last 4-5 miles. (or sometimes more)

                 

                For my 3 marathons, it's about mile 19 where shit gets real. For the next 2 or 3 miles I mount my last stand, and then yeah, the remainder sees a full on invasion and pillage of my personal property. lol

                 

                For me, while physically distressful in my legs, most of the end of the marathon is mentally hanging onto what you trained so hard for.

                onemile


                  And thinking about it, I have only ever really felt 'springy' for one of mine.  The others (except IMM #1), marathon pace felt easier than it had in training but I never felt bouncy and it never felt super easy, even at the start.

                  LRB


                     

                    But I think there are more variables that can go wrong in a marathon and it is less forgiving to error.

                     

                    Agreed.

                    onemile


                       

                      For my 3 marathons, it's about mile 19 where shit gets real. For the next 2 or 3 miles I mount my last stand, and then yeah, the remainder sees a full on invasion and pillage of my personal property. lol

                       

                      For me, while physically distressful in my legs, most of the end of the marathon is mentally hanging onto what you trained so hard for.

                       

                      There have been some differences in that distress amongst my marathons. Notably, for Green Bay and Boston, I felt it was the pain in my legs that was the overpowering factor.  (Lack of training, lack of preparation for the downhill course).  For Chicago and Carmel, I negative split and the end wasn't that tough, my legs were sore but it was very manageable.  (Too conservative).  For IMM #1, it was a fade in energy. I was putting in too much energy to hold the pace from the start and it became harder and harder that I was slowing despite efforts not to already by 16.  (I think I was under/rested or slightly over trained at the start of this one).  IMM #2 was a pretty good combination of hurt legs/fading energy but I think my best paced / best raced.


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                        LRB


                          And thinking about it, I have only ever really felt 'springy' for one of mine.  The others (except IMM #1), marathon pace felt easier than it had in training but I never felt bouncy and it never felt super easy, even at the start.

                           

                          The only time MP felt super easy for me was my first, probably because I was essentially running easy pace. lol

                           

                          My marathons are all business, so I've never really experienced bliss, joy or anything other than work...except when they are over FFS.

                          LRB


                             

                            There have been some differences in that distress amongst my marathons. Notably, for Green Bay and Boston, I felt it was the pain in my legs that was the overpowering factor.  (Lack of training, lack of preparation for the downhill course).  For Chicago and Carmel, I negative split and the end wasn't that tough, my legs were sore but it was very manageable.  (Too conservative).  For IMM #1, it was a fade in energy. I was putting in too much energy to hold the pace from the start and it became harder and harder that I was slowing despite efforts not to already by 16.  (I think I was under/rested or slightly over trained at the start of this one).  IMM #2 was a pretty good combination of hurt legs/fading energy but I think my best paced / best raced.

                             

                            I do not have a best paced/raced marathon yet. I have had enough positive stuff to take from each of them though to where they were not viewed as total failures or disappointments.

                            onemile


                              My marathons are all business, so I've never really experienced bliss, joy or anything other than work...except when they are over FFS.

                              Even then... my first was kind of a let down. I expected to feel... something other than tired.   lol

                              onemile


                                 

                                I do not have a best paced/raced marathon yet. I have had enough positive stuff to take from each of them though to where they were not viewed as total failures or disappointments.

                                 

                                Best is relative.