enkalina - definitely shochu, libation for the goddesses, was in the glasses maybe put on the menu for Seattle Rock'n'Roll. how's your heart after that?

Yeah, I thought Tory was wearing the pants in the family, too. Hi Mariposai! I haven't run on a treadmill in a long time - I always opt for the indoor track when I'm stuck inside. But I remember a 10mm pace feeling very difficult, and I could only keep it up for a mile or two before I'd have to slow the belt down. It's supposed to hit 50° in town today, so I'm planning a late afternoon run. I have an eye doctor appointment at 3, so I'll work through lunch and leave early, then run after my appointment. I'm sooo looking forward to it. TGIF!

WOOOOOOOOOO! High 5. Not-a-boomer, checking in.

Here's what he says about the recent glut of media hype about Baby Boomers turning 60: "You see this stuff everywhere, and you just know what's coming. David Crosby's face transplant. The James Taylor-Carly Simon remake of On Golden Pond . Woodstock IV: Return to the Garden, cosponsored by Nike, Botox and Ben & Jerry's. The Brown Acid line of tie-dyed Depends. It's only a matter of time. Those insufferable boomers are tucking into another gluttonous, cheek-smeared smorgasbord of self-importance. Don't even try to escape."

Not that I'm bitter, though. Gen X at 40

QUESTION for TM runners: How's your pace on the TM v. outside? I can't seem to run faster than an 11 min/mi on the thing, whereas outside, I can't seem to run as slow as an 11 min/mi. I'm

me too! I'm not sure just what the pace usually is, but it's sooooo slow. Mary, that's funny. To get me to stay home my DH has ordered me to run... It didn't work. Karin, welcome back. George, good to hear from you. I hope you find out something useful at the clinic. Could someone send me brownies, beer, something? I didn't run at all this morning. 1 hr. 25 min. on assorted ellipticals & an arc trainer. I was going to try just a little bit, but got talked out of it by someone who worded it just right. Then I was next to an orthopedic surgeon on another machine, & she says I shouldn't run until I can do it without pain. I need a second opinion! .

....6 hours of crispy run this morning on rolling hills...

Ok, I'm just wondering what the heck our butterfly lady is training for if she's running for 6 hours in the moonlight...? I like my treadmill just fine, but I don't use it for entertainment, I use it for training when the outside conditions aren't friendly. So I don't worry too much about the boredom factor. But as for ease of running, well, seems like some days are harder than others, but that's the way it is outside, too. I do find that some treadmills feel harder than others, so I'm sure it's a calibration issue. There are a couple at the athletic club I use that must have a built-in 1% incline because if I set it at 1%, if feels more like 2%. And you can get on two or three at the same speed, and some feel "faster" than others. I like mine though. Feels just right and very smooth. BUT... my 10k PR pace is about 7:27 or something like that. But I find mile repeats at 7:30 pace on the treadmill to be incredibly difficult. So, maybe they are harder than outside, but for day to day running, I don't really think so. We got snow yesterday, but nowhere near what the forecast was predicting. A few flurries today but not much. I sure hope we get plowed today though because I've got a 10 miler tomorrow and 19 on Sunday... and I'd really like to get OFF that nice little treadmill this weekend.

At 45, I guess I qualify for Boomer-dom, though the very tail end of it. I feel like i have more in common with Gen-Xers though. I mean my experience growing up was pretty much the same as someone who is now 43. I ran 6 miles on the TM today (8:20 pace) and lifted weights. As for TM running, I too find it more difficult to run fast on a TM. I am not sure what is the reason, but I am much faster outside. Nevertheless, I do like the treadmill for purposes of easy runs - it's easy to keep your pace what it should be and the surface is softer than my usual asphalt and concrete. Karin, good to see you back and running pain free.

"walking with autism" 2 miles with my grandson. Every step is a desire to try to understand what is going on in his mind. As we walk, he talks to everything, always that smile on his face. A constant state of joy. Is this God's compensation for his disability? Will we ever know? But I do know he's happy and that's good enough for me. Alex